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Damnit, we have to stop them.
awesome.
Washing machines are not luxury goods.
We've been here before - you seem to think that socialism/communism implies the state. It doesn't.
primmo's are twats
I do think that socialism implies a state, mostly because it needs a state to implement it. Communism on the other hand doesn't really need a state (at least in the form a state takes today). On which count am I mistaken?
State-less communism would be easily pickings for the American war machine. Which of course leads to on to theory of international revolution...which certainly isn't on the cards.
Individual nations have headed towards "real" socialism before, and America's standard response was dropping bombs/corrupting the political process/supporting counter-revolutions. Shit, even in this country, Aire Neive was colluding with MI6 to do Tony Benn over back in the 80's.
I'm no fan of the 'ra but i'm glad they whacked that fuck.
antiques ...most things that are simply old ...aren't usualy ollectable or worth a penny.
have a look at the value of roman coins ...2'ooo YEARS OLD and usualy worthless ...cos theres so many of them.
quality and beauty are usualy what people are looking for ...certainly not for using.
if people are allowed to cllect valuable antiques ...and pass them on to their children ...soesn't this stop socialism in its tracks?
a passionate clock collector will pay what he has to to obtain what he wants.
thus the value goes up.
when you have a collection of clocks ...they are no ;onger worth the individual prices but a higher price as a collection.
there is no way any political system can stop this from happening and still call itself free.
when someone has amassed a valuable collection of desirable things ...and decides to sell them for any reason ...they will then have money to purchase ...something grand?
or would socialism ...ban this kind of behaviour?
That something grand would certainly not be as overpriced as it is today.
Things just do not cost htat much to make. You pay over the odds because it has a stupid label on it.
you pay for rarity beauty quality.
were not talking fashion labels here.
something grand may well be a nice big house with a nice beeeeg garden.
will stamp collecting have to be made illegal?
no matter what political system you dream up even everyday things can become scarce ...tea sugar bread ...the price will go up way beyond it's production costs simply because of demand.
No. Next?
No. Next?
Look mr - it might be an idea if you had an idea of what socialism actually means. Maybe you should read some of the threads on here and some of the links I've posted?
You've missed the entire bleeding point (as per). Have a look at this
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/
Of course it does.
How else could you enforce socialism on a populace that doesnt want it? Through state coercion and the removal of personal freedom, of course.
Why do you make this so complicated. All you have to do to let people live their own lives is nothing. Just let them get on with it.
Libertarian socialism is a contradiction in terms. Freedom lies in less collectivisation, not more.
Problem here mr, is that socialism has no problem with that. My problem with capitalism is that it is based on accumulation of capital, capital that is gained through exploitation (i.e. appropriation of someone else's labour). That isn't the case in your little scenario is it?