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It's not often that I say 'well done' to The S*n...
BillieTheBot
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... but its campaign to end animal cruelty and to punish animal abusers as they deserve is spot on and counts with my full support.
Today it tells the story of a cunt who who gave his own dog 20 cigarette burns and 7 broken ribs. The animal had to be put down. The man's punishment? Three weeks inside.
The other day it told about a woman who took such offence at her cat giving her a scratch that she threw her in the washing machine, ran a 90- degree programme and watched the cat as it tumbled, drowned and boiled to death. What did she get? Two weeks.
Twisted fucks like these deserve to rot in jail for much much longer than that. :mad:
So, credit where it's due: for once the Soraway S*n counts with my full support about something. Well done to them.
Today it tells the story of a cunt who who gave his own dog 20 cigarette burns and 7 broken ribs. The animal had to be put down. The man's punishment? Three weeks inside.
The other day it told about a woman who took such offence at her cat giving her a scratch that she threw her in the washing machine, ran a 90- degree programme and watched the cat as it tumbled, drowned and boiled to death. What did she get? Two weeks.
Twisted fucks like these deserve to rot in jail for much much longer than that. :mad:
So, credit where it's due: for once the Soraway S*n counts with my full support about something. Well done to them.
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I am not sure Britain's crowded jails need lots of people done for animal cruelty crowding them up.
Personally I would rather see some innovative punishments, mucking out some pig pens perhaps.
I don't quite see how longer prison sentences for these sorts of crimes make society any better.........
I can guarantee you they don’t give a shit about animal welfare
It’s just a cheep publicity stunt trying to sell more newspapers trying to appear responsible and caring which they aren’t, next it will be an attack on loony animal rights extremists.
If ever there ever was a witch hunt the sun would be at the head screaming burn them their different.
What about their Bruno headline "Bonkers Bruno locked up" changed to
"Sad Frank..." They only changed it because of the public outcry very stupid.
They would have that headline then next day screaming at someone for being offensive to mentally ill people, with some story about how some mother lost her son because his mental illness wasn’t diagnosed loss of a promising life what’s our society like judging people etc. Then next week they’d have look up the loonies and a story about how a woman was assaulted by someone with mental illness and they should all be locked up. That’s the type of blatant shallow hypocrisy the cunts are famous for.
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Animal cruelty should be stopped, and people should be imprisoned for a very very long time for it. But when killer bullies get pathetic sentences too, I don't see it happening.
Not when we can lock up all the drug users instead.
Cruelty to animals or people needs to be punished with severe penalties. Do you disagree with that, or something?
I disagree with the idea that cruelty to animals warrants goinf to prison for 'a very long time'.
In fact I think it is absurd.........
I didn't say I condoned animal cruelty, I just sadi that putting people in prison for long sentences is not the appropriate response IMO
What is the appropriate response?
A slap on the wrist and a "banning order"? A CPO? An ASBO? A job at IAMS?
Communtiy service, banning of owning or being responsible for animals etc.
I am no expert on sentencing, I am sure you would know more about the range of options available.
It is a matter of opinion really, I just can't see why long prison sentences would be helpful in anyway however, obviously you can. I wonder is this desire motivated by desire for retribution or do you have a practical purpose in mind?
The sentences can be quite long, but they never are for a first offence, which fails to deal with the problem of animal cruelty. Of course good character should be taken into account, but if you let people continually get away with it it doesn't stop the problem.
IMHO banning orders are almost always meaningless.
Would it not be quite easy to ensure that these people were not allowed to 'care' for animals in the future?
The examples above were of people abusing their own animals, as it would be in the majority of cases. I can't imagine many would be deliberately hunting down other animals to be cruel to would they?
Some do, and some don't.
Those who do it for kicks will often offend again.
Yeah, it's easy in practise.
In reality its a lot harder.
Some would and do.
It's also very easy to get round the tricky thing of ownership. If they now belong to someone else, then you're not breaching your banning order, even if they do still spend most of their time in your garden.
In the end I personally do not think long prison sentences are at all appropriate, and don't think animal cruelty is a crime anywhere near on a par with various kinds of cruelt to humans.
Other people feel differently, fair enough.......
Also I would be careful to aviod hypocrisy as a lot of the meat that I eat probably some form animals that were treated fairly cruelly, and frankly I don't care......
There is a danger of slipping into double standards when it comes to different animals, people get very worked up about cruelty to nice cute pets, less so with cruelty to farm animals, or in fact insects (wasn't it the S*n who were shouting POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD a couple of weeks back about the kid who got excluded for pulling legs off a daddy long legs?)
Farmyard cruelty is a problem, especially in the abattoirs, but that is forgotten. And I've eaten veal before. But I try to only buy humane animals, but since F&M its been a lot harder, as everyone has to use the same abattoir.
I also condemn IAMS greatly.
Torturing animals isn't as severe as torturing people, but boiling as cat to death is worth more than a fortnight in prison IMHO.
Could you put some kind of poll in Aladdin?
Yeah me too. Bloody animal rights lot making me feel bad for something that tastes so good. Reminds me of the South Park episode about veal.
Next they'll be having a go at fois gras...
I won't eat foie gras because of what they do to the ducks. Force-feeding them several times their bodyweight in fat in seconds simply to destroy, sorry, "tenderise" the liver is wrong in every way.
Toadborg: what do you think should happen to people who deliberately and intentionally boil a living creature to death?
Your use of the term 'living creature' is interesting......
If I trapped a spider in a kettle and boiled it to death, should that carry the same punishment as the cat incident, if not why?
Mmmmmmm, lobster.
Problem is that Rupert Murdoch and Rebaecca Wade probably enjoy their lobster don't they?
OK, boil a mammal to death. Better?
So if you fancy boiled lobster (or spider), then that's fine.
Naturally, I'm sure spiders, flys and lobsters also perceive pain somehow.
Anyway I think for once weve all universaly agreed the Sun are hypocritical cunts
But the main issue here isn't the S*n but animal cruelty. And yes, in my opinion anyone guilty of the crimes described in the first post should serve longer terms than a couple of weeks. I would have thought 6 months to a year at least would be a fairer sentence.
Psychiatric evaluation or regular check ups wouldn't be out of hand either... in my mind it takes a special kind of sick, twisted (and clearly dangerous) mind to inflict cruelty in children and animals.
And the lobster comparisons are completely irrelevant I'm afraid. We kill the lobster to eat it, not to inflict vengeance on it or torture it for kicks.
You wouldn't apply that criteria for crimes against humans, so why animals?
Kermit, why mammals only? Other animals feel pain do they not?
I've got to agree with Toadborg.
Would you be asking the same questions if it had been a baby instead of a cat put inside a washing machine?