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I have a disliking to social workers in general, they stick together because if they didnt there would not be enough brain cells for all of them. They are sexist, racist and stupid. For the most part they are single mothers who need a job with a salary, or old women who have never had kids, the men who go into social work are only there to shag the single mothers they come into contact with. I am not a violent person but will head butt the next one of the little shits who tries to tell me how to take care of my daughter. I think they should all be shot, cut up into little pieces then burnt and the ashes buried at the four corners of the world.
Anybody want to go into this line of work?
Anybody want to go into this line of work?
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Remember that the things you see in the media are the bad, exceptional cases, not the everday normal cases.
It is a case of the wrong people doing the wrong job, and when the right people do get in they are victimised by the line managers and other social workers. The whole system is a faliure and needs a rethink.
The media attention only last for as long as the shock value is still there. Nothing happens to the social worker who is negligent.
My experiance with them comes from my mother trying to adopt a child. She has brought up 3 kids, me, my younger brother and little sister well. I work for Vodafone as a tech, my brother a tech for Mercedes, my sister is going to uni. tobe a paramedic.
First thay didnt think she was suitable, (She wanted a baby) then thay changed their tune. She was pushed into having a 7 year old girl (my mother was a good match for this girl due to nursing skills etc) There was 2 things my mother stipulated:- 1 she didnt think she could handle Sexulized behaviour. 2 and A.D.D. Well, she was assured this child had niether. She was “a well balanced girl, with few issues. All of which could be over come in a short time”
Unfortanately the girl had been ‘fiddled with’ by her mothers B/F.
My poor mother tried all she could with this girl, we all did. But after 3 months enough was enough. She had told ppl in our street she'd had sex with nextdoor neighbours, my mothers other half had as well, I was accused when me and my (now ex)partner and daughter had visited! she'd scream the place down if she couldnt have what she wanted for dinner-then when she got it she'd throw it on the carpet. Told social workers my mother had pulled her hair (she'd actually brushed it!), beat her for not eating her dinner! She had never had a bike in her life and wanted one for her Bday, My mum bought her one (mountain,girls,blue/purple,15gears) *blue is fav colour*..... ..... She screamed blue murder over it cos she now hates blue <IMG alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> and 2 days later left it down the shops UNLOCKED and walked back. (my brother saw it and put in his car and brought it back. A day later she did it again and this time it was nicked.... she didnt care a fuck!
Neway point is this girl had serious issues (and we truly felt for her) Yet the social worker didnt tell us. More over she'd said she was fine!!!
The truth was she had been in and out of care since 3! Her previous social worker had it right. she needed pro. care, yet she was shuned because she wasnt making the child 'saleable'. The stink of it was my mother was critersied for "not giving it a chance because she wanted a baby"
I sure this shows just how appalling the SS is and how much thay can get away with.
Get a life
My mum is a social worker, she was not a 'single parent' but is a highly qualified individual who has brought up 3 children, dealt with a difficult relationship and worked bloody hard to do great things.
At first she worked in child protection and as a child I was terrified when all these 'we hate social worker' stories came out that my mum would be killed by some loon. Now she works with the elderly and has worked in adoption.
Every profession has some people in it who shouldn't be there - it's unfortunate, but attitudes like yours suck.
Some people need a greater deal of protection and most social workers give them this. so basically shut up until you know what you are taling about you dork!
So - could this be why they are worried about your relationship with your daughter or your ability to care for her?
Social workers do work hard to protect children. They do the job because they want to, not because they 'are single mothers who want a salary'. Whatever your bad experiences of the profession, you should resist the temptation to tar all social workers with the same brush.
Binet-Simon, surelt they have reason to be involved with your case? They wouldn't get involved if everything was fine and dandy.
Even with Ibbow, I accept that the placement itself was a poor decision by social services, but you must understand the need for them to investigate those type of allegations, however unlikely.
its a shame the the media only highlights the bad cases - im sure that there are many children who owe their lives to social services interviening
i think that the ones who do a crappy job should be struck off but there are some who deserve a lot of praise.
Bit of a long-winded post there, sorry! <IMG alt="image" SRC="frown.gif" border="0">
I DO, HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED ITS FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE I SPEAK?
SHEER INCOMPETANCE and covering one-anothers backs!
Fair do's to ur mother, but many in this line of work shouldnt be.
My partner was 19 and I 22 when our daughter was born, Social services saw it fit to make themselves apart of our lives for the next six months. Reason, we're young! thus untrustworthy/likly to beat her!
You think I'm paranoid? when she was 6months old she slipped of the beanbag and bumped her head, On the Cautious side we take her up the hospital for a check over. Within half an hour our 'self-elected' SS officer is on site and dispite the all-clear from the doc. we are transfered to the childrens hospital for 24 hour ops. 23 hours later I whilst getting coffee's over heared "well it dosent appear there are any signs of abuse"
And weeks later my partner catches the Social worker cheaking under her clothes!
Now They are doing a bad job when caring parents feel under scrutiny after an accident. Yet they fail to protect those who really need it and DIE under the noses of SS! (take any recent paper story It happens far to often)
If these ppl were in any other job they'd be fired!!
that is my point - you read in the news when something BAD happens - it happens all the time, social services are no different. Doctors get a bad name when things go wrong e.g administering wrong drugs, the judicial system gets rapped when something happens that the public dont like e.g james bulger killers going free, the police get rapped for being either racist, ageist, sexist etc, education authorities get rapped for bad sex education, the new A.S system etc
so what do you suggest?
social services have limited powers e.g they will not remove a child unless blood has been drawn or a bone has been broken - do you realise how hard that can be to prove? and children tend to clam up because if they are abused they are shit scared, so of course they will have to keep a close eye on suspected cases - better to be safe than sorry
unfortunatly there have been many failures, but dont you think there are good social workers who get so fustrated when they know a child is being abused but they cant do anything about it for some reason or another?
so anyone who slams a proffession - ANY proffession, before you slag them off anymore, perhaps YOU should suggest a way by which things can be overhauled
*waits in anticipation*
Well don't then! Your views are rediculous and you are generalising stupidly. It's a bit like saying all single mothers are bad parents - utter bollocks!
I'm sorry ibbow but you said ...
"I have to argee, social workers are incompetent 'know it alls' who have no one to answer to.
I sure this shows just how appalling the SS is and how much thay can get away with."
You said that socialworkers (All) were incompetent. What you should have got from your first hand experience is that the social worker was looking out for a child who may have been at risk. He/she wasn't dragging them off at dawn, but only following the procedure that should be followed in all cases where a child is admitted to hospital.
The SS would not become involved with you because you are too young to be parents, that's silly talk and you know it - Why so defensive??????!!!!!!!!!!!
If the social workers in that little French girls case had been half as competent then she wouldn't have died, if you are suggesting that they stop being aware of children admitted to hospital then that's just asking for more of these cases to happen. You don't solve the incompetence of one team/person by branding all social workers with this evil child snatcher tag!
The example you gave shows no signs of incompetence - infact as a responsible parent you should be glad that they have your childs interest at heart. Perhaps they have sensed your extreme uncooperative reaction to them doing their job and that is why they are wary about you as parents.
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT SOCIAL WORKERS DON'T JUST CARE FOR CHILDREN!
?! They don't care for anyone, but themselves. A decent social worker is very illusive, i wont say they don't exist, just i've never heard of one let alone seen one.
Well I've already mentioned one - my mother. You're just being deliberately abrasive - I can tell because you have no decent argument.
Social Workers will probably look after our parents to help them stay in their own homes rather than move to sheltered housing or residential care.
Social workers will look after those with mental health conditions, Former-prisoners, lone parents, perents in difficulty, the bereaved....the list goes on.
Your problem is that you only get to read about the 'bad' ones!
She wasnt admitted, The doc gave her the allclear. It was the social worker who had us admitted to the childrens hospital.
defensive? I dont like being under suspsion for being cautious.
Aware is fine, Intervening over medical apinion is somthing else.
I only became unpleasnsent to the lady after overhearing her comments in the hospital just b4 we were allowed to leave!
Her cheaking under our daugther's clothes a few week later was the last straw. I filed a complaint, we heared nothing back, she never came back.
Is it procedure to assign a social worker to a couple who've just had a baby? cos nethier of us have any kind of history! And the midwife was never anything but pleased with her progress. Bit sus if you ask me.
[ 23-01-2002: Message edited by: Ibbow ]
Ibbow, you must have some idea of why the social services were interested in the welfare of your child. I agree with byny that you should be pleased that they were interested in your child's welfare.
Some social workers may give the impression of meddling even though they are just being thorough. It's a fine line between neglect and abuse so I have no problem with social workers being thorough in their work. It's attitudes like yours that make them suspicious. Animosity is not going to get them off your case, but bring yourself to their attention.
No my problem is i've only ever worked with the bad ones! In fact one time i actually told a social worker to 'Fuck off, the only problem is of your making', damn it felt good <IMG alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> Bear in mind i have a biased view anyhow on account of social services upsetting my mum. She had to leave us when i was younger cause of some mental health issues, all for the best in the long term, but the bleedin' social services hounded her <IMG alt="image" SRC="mad.gif" border="0">
edited to add, as for caring for the mentally ill, pah! I've got first hand experience in this sector thankyou very much and they haven't a clue. Some may have the best intentions in the world but are still inept.
[ 23-01-2002: Message edited by: Marmite ]
I have no idear why the ss were intrested in us. there wes nothing out of the ordinary, oh except we were 19 and 22.
4 weeks old was our daughter when we got our first visit. Why?
Byny
You seem to know the system and you never answered my Q. Is it procdure to assign a social worker to a couple who have just had a baby?
I still think you shouldn't tar the whole profession with the same brush. Most social workers in my experience do work hard and carry out their job with the best of intentions. So there may be some incompetents which you have come across, but they do not represent the majority of social workers.
a little message to byny. Have you any personal experiance of a social worker who is seeing you on a profesional basis and not your mother?
We have to tar them all with the same brush because this is an institutional problem. I myself tried to follow the three stage complants system, stage one is to take it up with the line manager, this is so they can get their story straight, then you get the option to take it to county management, this is so you get confused, when the wrong person looks at your complant, and makes it void due to confidentiality, then you must try and get an appointment with somebody in the director support office this will take about 3 months, when you do get your appointment the person you would like to see will be unavalible leaving you to start again. eventually you will get to stage three, this is asuming that at no point you have shouted or swore at anybody concerned. when entering stage three you get to talk to council members who have been paid and hand picked by social services. Now remember at every stage they can and will say no to your complaint leaving you to write letters to anybody who will listen, to get your complaint reinstated, it is desinged so even if you have the staying power to see it through you will still lose. After you have got no where with stages one two and three then is your opotunity to speak with the ombudsmen, this again will do no good as they cant imploment policies.
The problem will only get worse. We have to import social workers from abroad because anybody who has any dealing with them at any age, will have nothing to do with them.
Yes, the occaisonal mistake is made, but that happens in any line of work. Just when they do it theyre slaughtered...but you cant ever accuse them of not trying. Just out of interest, Binet, why do you hate them, so much? Is it possible theyre telling you a few home truths?
Hello! I went to see my mum this weekend and asked for some info about why a social worker might become involved with young parents she said....
The reasons that Social services would become involved with a young family are...
1. One or both of the parents have had contact with Social services in the past and their case is still ongoing, there may be some concern about the welfare of the child depending on the previous difficulties of the parent(s)
2. Someone outside of the family (Teacher/police/hospital/ health visitor etc) is concerned about some aspect of the child's upbringing and has invloved Social services.
She says that it is certainly not procedure to allocate a social worker to every young couple with a baby, infact social services are far too stretched financially and with the ever rising case load to provide this kind of service.
HOWEVER - She did say one thing to me. If a social worker is involved then the parents MUST be told why. A social worker cannot turn up and express a concern without telling you the reason for their concern. If the social worker has at no point given you a full explanation for their visits then I'd be very surprised.
Basically if you don't know you MUST ask. I cannot believe that they have not told you. Are you sure this person is genuine? Perhaps you should ask, and then let us know what reason she/he gave? That way you'll have a better understanding of the concerns. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW and they should already have told you.
that is exactly it they "should" do a lot of things but they dont.
Also Byny you never answerd my question. Have you had any dealings with any social workers who are not your mother?
One more thing my gripe is with child protection workers, I dont know about any other type of social worker, but until proven wrong will class them all the same. SCUM who I wouldn't trust with the steam off my piss.
OK so your experience may be a bad one but it's wrong to say they are all bad. I've not tried to say they are all good, but that your attitude is wrong because you are making sweeping generalisations.
When a social worker knocks on your door they have no right to walk in without saying why they are there and anyone who lets them in without knowing who they are is just plain stupid.
What I am trying to say is that Ibbow must know what the social worker said to to him and his girlfriend when she/he arrived. He must have some idea why they are involved in his babies life and if he really doesn't know he can find out very simply.
And as for Ibbow, as far as I am aware, if the SS receive an anonymous tip-off they have to investigate it, so it could be someone tipping them off because they dont like you.
No. But I have now. Read your PMs <IMG alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
Thanks for repling, and for sticking the flak you r unfairly getting.
I have called the local office (brighton) and enquired asto why thay were involved.
The reply was very hard to get being given number after number of 'the person you need to speak to is...' At the end of it I got a very UNSATISFACTORY "Your case was closed about a year ago now, so theres no cause for alarm MR *******"
I think I'll send them some money and a form under the Data protection act, Cos I buggered if I'm gonna take that for an answer! whot the fuck happen to my complaint? I mean not coming back after filing a complaint isnt dealing with it is it! And I sure as hell never got a reason for their intervention.