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China and Russia begin combined war games.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i liek how the chinese mention this as trainging for combatting extremism, terroism (as per usual) and seperatisim ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    From the article:
    "We are following the exercises," US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said this week.

    "We expect that they will be conducted in a manner that supports some mutual goal of regional stability shared by the United States, China and Russia."

    That is really funny coming from the arrogant warmongering hypocrite twats :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Who cares what they are doing, let them practice with their 50 year old tanks and planes.

    The US is the only military power that matters anymore.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ah yes seperatism like the evil Buddhists and people who hope to have freedom of speech.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Who cares what they are doing, let them practice with their 50 year old tanks and planes.

    The US is the only military power that matters anymore.

    I'm not so sure. Look at even north korea, a relatively minor coutnry, loads of countries are keeping their eyes there. And Israel's military attracts keen eyes from all over too. If you mean to say that America is the most dominant, I think that's self evident - but it may not remain so (who knows?). However, I for one would never brush off Russia and China as insignificant armed forces. Between them they could capture half the globe if not more.

    But anyway, I think although the Russian guy said they 'dont want to intimidate' - it will be significant with concern to China vs. America on Taiwan.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It would certainly be amusing watching all the old Russian tanks driving forward six yards and then breaking down.

    The Russian armed forces were pretty good by the end of WW2, but have been going steadily down hill ever since.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Who cares what they are doing, let them practice with their 50 year old tanks and planes.

    The US is the only military power that matters anymore.


    lol your delusions :lol:

    seriously the best military at the moment in the world is japan's they have 2nd highest defence budget and dont 'use' it

    and its not all about who has best weapons cause you need the best using them - which is why i was calling for war games with the US to involve the possibility of friendly fire from them :lol:
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Who cares what they are doing, let them practice with their 50 year old tanks and planes.

    The US is the only military power that matters anymore.

    Russia has the bet Jetfighters in Existence. FACT. Even the US Acknowledge this. China and India are hte only people buying them.

    China is now modernising it's tank force to easily on par with the like of Abrams and T-90's. Fact. The Type 98 is rather good. China's only weekness is it's Navy, which, you failed to notice.

    Then, lets not Forget the US isn't the only country using Laser weaponary, China has this now too. As well as the new tanks being equiped with Laser defence that makes it impossible to get a lock-on, the also now have laser systems which can blind folks. Including enemy pilots of low flying aircraft, such as Helicopters. Ho hum, Geneva is obviously ignored by everyone. So much for the backwards nation you speak of.

    Their navy though is a Diesel Sub joke. :lol: Then again, they do have ALOT of diesel subs.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    seriously the best military at the moment in the world is japan's they have 2nd highest defence budget and dont 'use' it

    Though it's besides the point, it's simply not true unfortunately. America, although oft. evil, has the technology, has the expertise and has the experience.
    and its not all about who has best weapons cause you need the best using them - which is why i was calling for war games with the US to involve the possibility of friendly fire from them :lol:

    All armies experience friendly fire :p it just seems America experiences it more often.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    By the end of this century, if not sooner, China will probably have the largest economy in the world and quite probably the most powerful army that has ever existed.

    The 22nd century will be the Chinese century..........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Who cares what they are doing, let them practice with their 50 year old tanks and planes.

    The US is the only military power that matters anymore.


    Oh yeah?



    Meet the Su-37:

    Su-37-037.jpg

    It pisses over the entire USAF inventory with one engine shut down.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Toadborg wrote:
    By the end of this century, if not sooner, China will probably have the largest economy in the world and quite probably the most powerful army that has ever existed.

    The 22nd century will be the Chinese century..........
    And the US will just loooooove that!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lol your delusions :lol:

    seriously the best military at the moment in the world is japan's they have 2nd highest defence budget and dont 'use' it

    and its not all about who has best weapons cause you need the best using them - which is why i was calling for war games with the US to involve the possibility of friendly fire from them :lol:

    No its not. There's a common mistake that budget and equipment = good military. Whilst it may sometimes it doesn't always. The Japanese military remains untested, (and strictly speaking I believe they're civil service).

    On blue on blue's I'd struggle to find a conflict when it hasn't happened. Even in the wars of Ancient Greece there are examples of people being stabbed by their own side. In WW2 they were about 20% of battle casualties. Don't judge the capabilities of the US army by a few well publicised examples.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NQA wrote:
    No its not. There's a common mistake that budget and equipment = good military. Whilst it may sometimes it doesn't always. The Japanese military remains untested, (and strictly speaking I believe they're civil service).

    On blue on blue's I'd struggle to find a conflict when it hasn't happened. Even in the wars of Ancient Greece there are examples of people being stabbed by their own side. In WW2 they were about 20% of battle casualties. Don't judge the capabilities of the US army by a few well publicised examples.


    but it is funny hehe
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nope.

    Anti Americanism cant get you out of this one, chaps.

    THe US military is capable of fighting 2 large wars simultaneously, as well as securing the homeland against attack.

    You all know it, the 21st century will be the American century, kjust like the 20th was.

    Poor lefties! Does that make you upset?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nope.

    Anti Americanism cant get you out of this one, chaps.

    THe US military is capable of fighting 2 large wars simultaneously, as well as securing the homeland against attack.

    You all know it, the 21st century will be the American century, kjust like the 20th was.

    Poor lefties! Does that make you upset?

    With the new cruisemissiles that are now knocking around in the Chinese and Russian arsenals the US carrier fleets (what they place all thier dependence on) is now nearly obsolete. The fact they had to fix recent war games shows this.

    But yeah, no country will be able to go against the US in a war for decades.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whatever Russia and China have, the US is at least 2 generations ahead.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not at all, they certainly cocked up trying to aquire russian missile technology (moskites).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nope.

    Anti Americanism cant get you out of this one, chaps.

    THe US military is capable of fighting 2 large wars simultaneously, as well as securing the homeland against attack.

    You all know it, the 21st century will be the American century, kjust like the 20th was.

    Poor lefties! Does that make you upset?

    You'd think being an Englishman you wouldn't be proud of that fact. No one wants an American century, and if you do, maybe you should pack your bags and go to your beloved "homeland"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The American century (if you essentially take it after 1945, after the Europeans did a good job of killing more people than had ever been kileld before) has been one of prosperity, peace and stability.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nope.

    Anti Americanism cant get you out of this one, chaps.
    What anti-Americanism would that be? Can you point us out to one example?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whatever Russia and China have, the US is at least 2 generations ahead.
    You don't know much about military forces and weaponry do you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The American century (if you essentially take it after 1945, after the Europeans did a good job of killing more people than had ever been kileld before) has been one of prosperity, peace and stability.

    :lol::lol::lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What anti-Americanism would that be? Can you point us out to one example?
    That is really funny coming from the arrogant warmongering hypocrite twats

    Need anyone be reminded of your anti-Americanism Aladdin? After your constant rants against pretty much the entire American population. You hate their faith, their belief in their country, their free enterprise and their willingness tio put themselves into harms (or the Un's) way to do what they believe is right.
    You don't know much about military forces and weaponry do you?

    I suspect much more than you. Since when have pinko pacifists been interested in guns?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The American century (if you essentially take it after 1945, after the Europeans did a good job of killing more people than had ever been kileld before) has been one of prosperity, peace and stability.

    So you'd rather kiss America's ass and follow their lead than try and govern yourself a bit better with your own methods?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So you'd rather kiss America's ass and follow their lead than try and govern yourself a bit better with your own methods

    :confused: WHat own methods? The US is essentially an extension of Britain. Unfortunately Britain has taken a turn for the worse over the years, mainly thanks to its integration with Europe on welfare and tax issues.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :confused: WHat own methods? The US is essentially an extension of Britain. Unfortunately Britain has taken a turn for the worse over the years, mainly thanks to its integration with Europe on welfare and tax issues.

    Wake up Matadore, we don't live in the 50's anymore. Britains decision to integrate with the welfare system of Europe reflects the general consensus of the time, there was a strong working class. You might be some rich toff, but most aren't. Britain now is a totally different country to America now and to what Britain was in the 50's, as I've said, if you want lower taxes and a "strong economy" like the USA has now :lol: then by all means go over your "homeland"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Need anyone be reminded of your anti-Americanism Aladdin?
    Wrong (for the millionth time). Criticism of the US government (for that is exactly what it is) does not equal anti-Americanism.

    How many times do we have go through this? :rolleyes:

    After your constant rants against pretty much the entire American population.
    Bullfuckingshit. Find a single fucking instance when I have ever ranted against "pretty much the entire American population."

    Stop talking bollocks and making things up.

    Isn't it a bit early to be drunk? You appear to have a bit of an issue with alcohol, judging by the percentage of your posts that are done under the influence.
    You hate their faith, their belief in their country, their free enterprise and their willingness tio put themselves into harms (or the Un's) way to do what they believe is right.
    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, and unrelated government issues.


    I suspect much more than you. Since when have pinko pacifists been interested in guns?
    Pinko pacifists... LOL.

    You don't seem to have much knowledge of weaponry if you think the US inventory is two generations ahead or that Chinese and Russian aircraft and tanks are fifty years old. As a matter of fact both the Russian and Chinese fighter fleets are younger (and better) than the US'.

    And the Russians in particular can certainly teach the Americans a thing or two about cruise and anti-shipping missiles, and would have little trouble sinking any fleet threatening them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    You don't seem to have much knowledge of weaponry if you think the US inventory is two generations ahead or that Chinese and Russian aircraft and tanks are fifty years old. As a matter of fact both the Russian and Chinese fighter fleets are younger (and better) than the US'.

    And the Russians in particular can certainly teach the Americans a thing or two about cruise and anti-shipping missiles, and would have little trouble sinking any fleet threatening them.

    Hard to tell and I'm no longer in the loop on this as much I once was. But a lot of Russian weaponary isn't as good as its pictured. All technology has a tendency to break down when most needed (one of Murphy's laws I'm sure), but Russian does more than most. its often not well maintained and the Russian armed forces have a history of sloppy conscripts stealing vital pieces.

    Its interesting to compare the Russia initial advance into Grozny with the US into Baghdad. The US were largely succesful with limited civilian and US casualties (though regretably some). The Russians were massacred, with some tank and infantry battalions being literally wiped out due to poor tactics, leadership and training. They then levelled the city.

    Another difference is the use of professional soldiers vs conscripts. Conscript army have mass, but they often lack the dedication and skill (and dare one say ruthlessness) of professionals. All things being equal professionals tend to beat amateurs (eg the Falklands)

    If you want the potential successor to the US its neither Russia nor China, but India.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes indeed, the Indians are very capable. They have bought a load of Russian-made SU-30s and have them modified and upgraded to what is probably the very best figther aircraft in existence, the SU-30 MKI.

    They're coming of age with ballistic missiles as well. And more importantly, it's permanent state of alert and direct competition with Pakistan means the Indian military will push the envelope and continue to evolve and upgrade for decades to come- just as the Americans and the Soviets did at the heart of hte Cold War.
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