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And tell me... if the British were to invade Ireland, and begin the execution of EVERY Catholic on the island, would you still be lecturing me about the "poor choice" I was making to take a stand, come to your island, and shed my own blood to prevent what they were determined to do?
If you do not take a stand against the genocide? Then you give it silent affirmation, with your moral cowardice.
you sound like some of the current soldiers who say they went to war to overthrow a terrible tyrant such as Sadam who carried out genocide, and i already said, isn't it ironic that it's because of your beloved leaders who go on the podium, that it's because of the news programmes that talk of this tyrant that people went to a war they shouldn't have went to
what? here the Vietnamese dind't invade America and slaughtered you, you invaded them, it's a poor analogy tbh
You said I made a "poor choice" to fight in Vietnam.
Ergo...
You SUPPORT the genocide of the Dega.
That shoe fit you well?
nope, though i don't think it should have been invaded on the pretense they were "mass murderers with WMD's" when it's clear there was a much more ulterior motive than that, and i don't think thousands of young Americans, particularly after 9/11 be brainwashed into thinking they were doing their country a favour, hits home when the coffins start coming back over the water
nope, i don't support genocide of any kind, i just don't think invading another country is the right thing to do, and was that the reason for the war in Vietnam in the first place, i thought the real reason was to stop the spread of Communism
It is an ABSOLUTELY APROPOS analogy.
Would you be here whining about US interference, if 58,000 of us gave our lives to prevent the wanton genocide of your family, your friends, your countrymen? Should we have stood by and allowed Hitler to have his way, unimpeded? He was not invading the US, ya know...
The United States did not "invade" South Vietnam; we fulfilled our treaty obligations, and prevented NORTH Vietnam from invading the South.
Need to read up on that precious "history", or at least, that which is not "revised".
so 58,000 people gave their lives to prevent genocide, or did they do it because they thought they were preventing genocide when in reality they were being used by their leaders
On a note of recent events, we could see a similar situation with China wanting to invade Taiwan. The US said it will stop them. Oh dear. Worlds Largest two armed forces clash.
I hope to God they both have common sense. I can't Justify China's side on this one.
Tell that to the Dega. Tell that to the Cambodians. Tell that to the Laotians. Tell that to the Thais.
Tell it to ANYONE who does not buy into the load of bullshit that you suck down...
I don't see how the two compare. Why not bring battle of Hastings in and every other battle and war ever?
America did, for a long while. They got invloved when Japan attacked American soil as well as Germany declaring war on them.
Should ask the people of China, Guatemala, Indonesia, Peru, Laos, Cambodia, Chile, Grenada, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama or Iraq (to name but a few) whether they are grateful for America's intervention in their countries, Thanatos?
Yeah good point. However I'd sooner believe something an academic wrote than something on Fox News.
You chose to go to Vietnam to kill peasants for some false notion of "freedom" and you're proud of that? :eek:
Which ones? The ones that the US carpet bombed?
You're fucking crazy.
Not America's proudest moment methinks...
You don't know what he did you complete shit, or the reasons why he went or what he did when he was there.
He volunteered for Vietman...thats enough for me. Do you think Vietnam was justified?
Different subject entirely. You said he volunteered to kill peasants in the name of a misguided notion of freedom, which is a shitty thing to say (to be fair I expect it from you), you don't know if he was traumatised by the experience, what he did when he was there or his reasons for volunteering.
You know, I'm pretty sure that "to kill peasants" isn't on the application form. In fact, I'm pretty certain that wasn't his motovation at all.
BTW What is the difference between an unemployed/blue collar American and a VietCong?
So easy to be sanctimonious 30 years after the event.
I know people join the army for all sorts of reasons, often economic....but the fact that Globe was in the Marines, volunteered for Vietnam and attempts to justify it 3o years later makes me think he's not a very nice person.
Read his posts...he's always glorifying US atrocities.
They are doing God's work.
Why all the raped Asian woman? Surely the US can only be blamed for those uin Vietnam (and probably only those raped by the US or at a stretch the South Vietnanese forces). The North vietnamese and the Viet cong weren't a bunch of angels either - more mass killings were done by the communists than by the US/ARVN.
And why concentrate on Naplam. OK I admit is not nice, but then neither is the VC burning peasents alive in their homes because they supported the Government and the US.
And friendly fire is not just in Vietnam. One of the most famous friendly fire incidents was the USAAF bombing US troops just before Operation Cobra in WW2 killing several hundred of them - does that mean WW2 was wrong.
I may disagree with Globe over many things, but he served his country with honour and he'll always get my respect for that.