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I hate druggies...

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
I think that people that take drugs take them becaues they must have some sort of problem with their life and it is nothing to do with just making yourself feel good. So I think anyone that takes drugs should not start posting replies saying that this is not the case. I think if you were honest with yourself you would realise that its cause there is a problem that affects you and it is not necessarily the same for all of you.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    so you hate anyone who has a problem with their life and turns to drugs??

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know if 5 pills over the last 6 months qualifies me as a "druggie" <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    Still, I don't do it to escape, or to fit in, or to rebel (bit too old for that phase), or to be cool, or to give meaning to my life, or to forget, or cos I need to, or cos I can't stop...

    It feels good when I'm dancing with friends. I don't think it's a symptom of an underlying problem, as a psychology graduate I know myself pretty well, and I'd be honest about it if there was something wrong.

    Still, I see your point. Drugs are often abused in the way u say. However, I have found people on this site to be quick to point out the dangers and bad sides, especially to those new users...see the posting to rr in the "weed" thread. I think it needs to be talked about frankly and without judgement.

    I take it you don't watch TV (escapism), drink caffine, smoke, drink, masturbate, dance...or anything else from this category? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    I used to be absolutely anti-drug, but since opening my mind and expelling prejudices, I've come to see that society is completely hypocritical about this issue.

    Besides, some people will take drugs no matter what: it's not ging to go away. Forums like this are vital to educate and make sure people stay as safe as possible.

    Don't confuse drug use with drug abuse.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Um, First of all, have you, yourself ever tried any drugs?

    It is really stupid to assume things, im sure you've heard that saying many times. I take drugs and i could definately be considered a "Druggie" and I have very little problems in my life.

    I am 18 and fresh out of high school, and I'm the manager of a Web Design company (I only have one person working for me right now, but you have to start somewhere! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; ) I taught myself everything to get me where I am now. Also, My parents are great, I have no problems with them at all like a lot of my friends. We get along great. So where are my problems that lead me to take drugs?

    Drugs in my opinion, give you a different view of life, so to speak. Acid especially. It's hard to explain. The only way to know is to try it. but im not suggesting it ;p

    I really cannot understand how someone can take a drug and expect it to solve your problems. That is just ridiculous. It might make you forget about them but thats all.

    LOL, It seems to me like if i had problems with my life, i wouldnt be able to afford drugs.

    I could go on forever but since im on lunch break i'll stop for now....



    [This message has been edited by thaistixx (edited 03-10-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you're right, i have problems with my life so i take drugs? what's so wrong with that?
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,185 Skive's The Limit
    Quite simply, why should I give flying fuck what you think!

    I don't know you and to be honest I doubt I want to. You've obviously come on here to provoke some sort of reaction from us 'Druggies'. Why?

    You apperantly hate me, although I've never done anything to you to warrant that so why? It seems to me that you're quite unclear about the reasons behind the fact that some ordinary people like you choose to take drugs.

    Admitidly some people take drugs cos they've got problems just as people might try and drink away their problems.I can't see any difference between an Alcoholic and a Druggie.

    I take drugs and I admit I take a hell of a lot. But this is not to forget my problems or because I've got an addiction. It's because like all Stimulants (eg. Ecstasy, Caffine) and Depressants (Alcohol, Heroin) can make you feel good in moderation.

    What gives anyone the right to say they hate all people that do drugs. For anyone to declare that seems just slightly stupid to me. I don't go around telling people to do drugs, why should I listen to you telling people not to do them.

    This board is here in my view to offer advice to anyone who has go any query's on drugs. You obviously aint got anything worthwhile posting. Were not looking for aguments here so why not just confine yourself to the politics board where you can give all thoise gun toting americans some abuse!

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hey bpbfluteband!

    I went to your website (stuck on the end of your post) to see what your story is.

    Here's a suggestion: why don't you pop on over to the politics forum and show Diesel, I think it could be the start of a beautiful friendship <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know you said you didnt want replies like this (possibly coz you dont like it when peopel prove you wrong???) but i never asked you to make your post either so i couldnt give a fuck.

    Whats the piont of making general statements like that about people you dont know and then arrogantly saying you dont want anyone to reply if they disagree, you closeminded, nationalistic* twat. Why dont you just try and accept people?

    *http://bpbfb.tripod.com

    You ARE wrong. I have no problems in my life. <this may piss a few peope off who arnt as lucky as me so I apoligise in advance> im middle class, have a stable bank account, a fantastic relationship with both my parents who know i do drugs and i can talk to on the same level and always have done, I have some trully solid friends some who do drugs, some who dont but all who accept me for the way I am not the substances I chose to take. You are Obvousely not so lucky, maybe you should look at the problems in your life that make you feel you need to pick fights with people you dont know.

    -Underdog
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not even going to post the links to the amount of conversations me, skive, lolly and indeed several others have posted regarding why people use drugs and arguements to defend sensible useage.

    Just check the history.... each to their own..
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Let's face it
    Anyone whacked out on Heroine or loaded with coke won't be on theis forum, the Heroin addict won't even have a computer because he's sold it for a bag, the Cocaine addict won't care about it because he's too busy talking about himself really REALLY LOUDLY!!!

    so... Yes - people who get strung out on Heroin, steal from their mothers, and generally fuck up - no - who cares!
    People who smoke dope - so what - get on with it
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    but surely everyone has some sort of underlying problem wether it be big or small, how we deal with it is upto yourself. which would you say is worse someone who gets stoned, laughs alot, eats, or someone who gets absolutly pissed goes out and batters someone. as for druggies how do you classify that, do you class everyone who uses drugs as a addict, how about drink, do you class everyone who drinks an alcoholic. i work, i pay for mine, i'm doing damage to myself and no one else.
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,185 Skive's The Limit
    Originally posted by Justin Credible:
    each to their own..

    Excactly... and if it dosn't hurt anyone else what's the problem?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Agreed. Though obviously I take drugs because I have an exceedingly small penis. And am ugly as a bulldog licking piss off broken glass. And I have an IQ of a lump of cheese. And I always wished I was with the "in" crowd. And my dress sense is crap. And I'm not quite happy with the way my hair doesn't look exactly the way I want it to. And blah blah blah blah........

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  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,185 Skive's The Limit
    LOL at LoL <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    A weekend wasted, is not a wasted weekend! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/nogood.gif"&gt;
    Yesterday is history
    Tomorrow is a mystery
    But today is a gift
    That’s why it’s call the present
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What you people don't seem to realise is that by actually buying drugs you are causing harm. The money goes to people who lie about on their ass all day doing nothing but getting high and wrecking other peoples lifes. Furthermore if the money was put into something more useful the economy would be in a much better situation. There would be reduced costs for customs, police and taxes. They people who actually create the product use it to fund wars and so forth in their own country. To say that "each to their own" is quite rediculous when you look at the bigger picture. Now to say about alcohol and cigarettes is also stupid these are legal drugs and if the illegal drugs were legalised then I would know that they are safe and that I would probably try them. You have to think of the bigger picture. My website has got nothing to do with other opinions I might hold.

    http://bpbfb.tripod.com
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    there is no real difference between legal and illegal drugs...alcohol and cigarettes do worse harm than many illegal ones, but the gov allows that cos of the tax they get.

    Most of the problems with illegal drugs, esp the ones you describe are CAUSED by the gov. making them illegal. Most of the ppl here support the campaign for legalisation, but until then (we can but hope!), we're not prepared to wait around just cos of society's hypocracy.

    You make some pretty sweeping statements about growers and dealers. How can u even presume to have a clue about these ppl's situations?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So you agree with legalisation, with government control of potentialy harmful substances? Its nice to see you are thinking more deeply about the problems with drug abuse and ways to solve it. Maybe you should have started this topic with that stament? We reacted badly becuase we felt attacked by someone who knows nothing about our lives.

    -Underdog
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    HAHAHA.. Cigarettes and Alcohol are safe??? maybe you should read the death statistics for that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i dont usually post here, but i feel like having a bit of a rant.

    i have never taken [illegal] drugs, but to be honest they dont bother me. if people want to do it, let them. doesnt hurt me. okay, perhaps i do have issues with class A's, but again, it isnt my business. i'm certainly not going to go around saying 'drugs are bad. mmmmmkaaaaay' or anything.

    using drugs, and having a problem with drugs, are two totally different things. thats like saying that because i go down the pub, i'm an alcoholic. methinketh not.

    as for hating people who take drugs, some of my best friends use or have used drugs of various kinds. do i give a shit? no. because its nothing to do with me. just because i drink alcohol doesnt make me an evil person. so just because someone does drugs doesnt make them evil. thats like saying that breaking the speed limit, or drinking underage, is 'evil'. it may be wrong in the eyes of the law, and you may have to live with the consequences (!), but you dont instantly become 'bad'.

    bpb, you can spout your arguments all you like, but its a bit dumb to do it on a 'drugs' board. you dont honestly think everyone here's gonna give that kinda bollocks a warm reception?!

    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some death stats for 1999.....

    Marijuana : 0

    Tobacco :360,000

    Ecstasy : 26 (gov. estimates that 500,000 pills are taken every weekend.

    Illegal drug overdose : 3,800

    Alcohol (not including accidents and crime) : 125,000
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by J:
    I'd like to add that if the government legalised ecstasy and it was produced by a reputable company, it wouldn't be mixed with rat poison and other shite and the death rate would probably be half if not a quater of what it is today.

    [This message has been edited by J (edited 06-10-2001).]

    that is a very good point, and is the reason that i think that most drugs should be legalised, so that they are not cut or mixed with all sorts of random crap. they would be produced by legitimate companies, and would have safety warnings inside the packet (like the way you buy medication etc)

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For starters I was a drug user for 5 years and believe you don’t have a fucking clue about what your saying. Some people have mental problems and use drugs to help control there moods, others are psychologically addicted and with out support and help from people they will never be able to come of drugs.

    If I was surrounded by people like you when I went though cold turkey I would have never come of drugs and got my life back in order.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kaz- Yes most 'Legal drugs' do as much if not more harm, but isn't this an argument for banning ALL drugs of ALL kinds rather than an argument to support the continued use of Illegal drugs?
    Unfortunately by saying the ones we ARE allowed are bad too, you're not putting forward any kind of goo argument for legalising the others.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Harry - when you smoke dope - usually you smoke tobacco too! So how can we get any statistics RE deaths by Dope?

    [This message has been edited by byny (edited 08-10-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah, byny.

    I totally see your point. I used to be against the legalisation of all drugs, even cannabis. But I watched a really good documentary on what the real problems of drugs are, and right nuff, most of the deaths were caused by the fact that they are illegal. I don't think something like heroin, which is PHYSICALLY addictive from the word go, should be available from the corner newsagents or anything. But fizzy drinks probably do you more harm than a hash brownie. The "war on drugs" is definately not working, they are not going to go away. That much is now clear. Perhaps it would be more mature of our society to accept this reality and work towards making it safer, through regulation and legalisation. This is simplifying the issue, I know. I can't help feeling that lives would be saved if the taboo was lifted. I'd rather buy e from the gov than a dealer.

    I dunno. You could probably pull my arguement to shreads, but I take e so it would be hypocrytical of me to condemn anyone else for the same thing. It's not an ideal world. I try to keep an open mind on this issue, my view is not crystallised.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I hate people that say "cha", instead of 'mate' or a name. E.g.:

    "See you later, cha"- ever heard this? It makes me consider murdering their scallie asses.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I occansionally smoke cannabis because it helps my depression. Yeah I have issues, but they're my problems and not anyone elses.

    Buying drugs is no worse than buying from a multinational company which exploits people like Reebok or GAP. Some people make their lives growing hemp.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    errrr bpbfluteband, do you dring tea? do you drink coffee? alcohol by anychance? i suspect you do which would make you a complete and utter hypocrite because these are all drugs and that would make you a 'druggy' to!

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The biggest problem I think is that drugs (ie the illegal ones) are made out to be some big, brave, cool thing that your parents or 'society' warn you about and it just makes people irresponsible with them.

    I have no objection to dope, I've had speed but it makes me sick. E - didn't like it, Acid - OK, but never again.

    But there are certain drugs I just draw (no pun intended) the line at - for myself.
    I have never taken Coke because I have been in too many rooms too many times, listening to arseholes banging on about me me me me me me.
    I wouldn't take Heroine because it is just such a life changing horrible drug.

    My mum and dad were pretty open about their drug taking, sex life etc and for that reason I think I grew up pretty stable and unlikely to abuse drugs.

    What I can't get over though is the fact that I was completely anti-smoking until I was 25 - then because of peer pressure, I ended up smoking like no-ones business. !!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well,there's nothing wrong with be anti-druggie.I respect your beliefs as well as other people's beliefs.Drugs share both their negatives and their positives.I believe that drugs are a good way to esacpe every once in a while,I feel your frustration because I had a friend that did nothing but literally ABUSE the priviledge and high of smoking marijuana and he because a compulsive user,lying and stealin from me so fuck him.Anways,keep it real and dont get into problems like he did..sorry if i'm babbling got alot stuck in my head.I'll go
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If people have got problems then turning to drugs wont help. It will only cause them even more problems. That is the worst thing that people can do is turn to drugs when they have got problems. If you know a friend who is taking drugs then tell the police, that way they will be stopped before the drug taking ruins their life.
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