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I hate druggies...
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I think that people that take drugs take them becaues they must have some sort of problem with their life and it is nothing to do with just making yourself feel good. So I think anyone that takes drugs should not start posting replies saying that this is not the case. I think if you were honest with yourself you would realise that its cause there is a problem that affects you and it is not necessarily the same for all of you.
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Still, I don't do it to escape, or to fit in, or to rebel (bit too old for that phase), or to be cool, or to give meaning to my life, or to forget, or cos I need to, or cos I can't stop...
It feels good when I'm dancing with friends. I don't think it's a symptom of an underlying problem, as a psychology graduate I know myself pretty well, and I'd be honest about it if there was something wrong.
Still, I see your point. Drugs are often abused in the way u say. However, I have found people on this site to be quick to point out the dangers and bad sides, especially to those new users...see the posting to rr in the "weed" thread. I think it needs to be talked about frankly and without judgement.
I take it you don't watch TV (escapism), drink caffine, smoke, drink, masturbate, dance...or anything else from this category? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
I used to be absolutely anti-drug, but since opening my mind and expelling prejudices, I've come to see that society is completely hypocritical about this issue.
Besides, some people will take drugs no matter what: it's not ging to go away. Forums like this are vital to educate and make sure people stay as safe as possible.
Don't confuse drug use with drug abuse.
It is really stupid to assume things, im sure you've heard that saying many times. I take drugs and i could definately be considered a "Druggie" and I have very little problems in my life.
I am 18 and fresh out of high school, and I'm the manager of a Web Design company (I only have one person working for me right now, but you have to start somewhere! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"> ) I taught myself everything to get me where I am now. Also, My parents are great, I have no problems with them at all like a lot of my friends. We get along great. So where are my problems that lead me to take drugs?
Drugs in my opinion, give you a different view of life, so to speak. Acid especially. It's hard to explain. The only way to know is to try it. but im not suggesting it ;p
I really cannot understand how someone can take a drug and expect it to solve your problems. That is just ridiculous. It might make you forget about them but thats all.
LOL, It seems to me like if i had problems with my life, i wouldnt be able to afford drugs.
I could go on forever but since im on lunch break i'll stop for now....
[This message has been edited by thaistixx (edited 03-10-2001).]
I don't know you and to be honest I doubt I want to. You've obviously come on here to provoke some sort of reaction from us 'Druggies'. Why?
You apperantly hate me, although I've never done anything to you to warrant that so why? It seems to me that you're quite unclear about the reasons behind the fact that some ordinary people like you choose to take drugs.
Admitidly some people take drugs cos they've got problems just as people might try and drink away their problems.I can't see any difference between an Alcoholic and a Druggie.
I take drugs and I admit I take a hell of a lot. But this is not to forget my problems or because I've got an addiction. It's because like all Stimulants (eg. Ecstasy, Caffine) and Depressants (Alcohol, Heroin) can make you feel good in moderation.
What gives anyone the right to say they hate all people that do drugs. For anyone to declare that seems just slightly stupid to me. I don't go around telling people to do drugs, why should I listen to you telling people not to do them.
This board is here in my view to offer advice to anyone who has go any query's on drugs. You obviously aint got anything worthwhile posting. Were not looking for aguments here so why not just confine yourself to the politics board where you can give all thoise gun toting americans some abuse!
A weekend wasted, is not a wasted weekend! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/nogood.gif">
I went to your website (stuck on the end of your post) to see what your story is.
Here's a suggestion: why don't you pop on over to the politics forum and show Diesel, I think it could be the start of a beautiful friendship <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
Whats the piont of making general statements like that about people you dont know and then arrogantly saying you dont want anyone to reply if they disagree, you closeminded, nationalistic* twat. Why dont you just try and accept people?
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You ARE wrong. I have no problems in my life. <this may piss a few peope off who arnt as lucky as me so I apoligise in advance> im middle class, have a stable bank account, a fantastic relationship with both my parents who know i do drugs and i can talk to on the same level and always have done, I have some trully solid friends some who do drugs, some who dont but all who accept me for the way I am not the substances I chose to take. You are Obvousely not so lucky, maybe you should look at the problems in your life that make you feel you need to pick fights with people you dont know.
-Underdog
Just check the history.... each to their own..
Anyone whacked out on Heroine or loaded with coke won't be on theis forum, the Heroin addict won't even have a computer because he's sold it for a bag, the Cocaine addict won't care about it because he's too busy talking about himself really REALLY LOUDLY!!!
so... Yes - people who get strung out on Heroin, steal from their mothers, and generally fuck up - no - who cares!
People who smoke dope - so what - get on with it
Excactly... and if it dosn't hurt anyone else what's the problem?
A weekend wasted, is not a wasted weekend! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/nogood.gif">
Agreed. Though obviously I take drugs because I have an exceedingly small penis. And am ugly as a bulldog licking piss off broken glass. And I have an IQ of a lump of cheese. And I always wished I was with the "in" crowd. And my dress sense is crap. And I'm not quite happy with the way my hair doesn't look exactly the way I want it to. And blah blah blah blah........
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Most of the problems with illegal drugs, esp the ones you describe are CAUSED by the gov. making them illegal. Most of the ppl here support the campaign for legalisation, but until then (we can but hope!), we're not prepared to wait around just cos of society's hypocracy.
You make some pretty sweeping statements about growers and dealers. How can u even presume to have a clue about these ppl's situations?
-Underdog
i have never taken [illegal] drugs, but to be honest they dont bother me. if people want to do it, let them. doesnt hurt me. okay, perhaps i do have issues with class A's, but again, it isnt my business. i'm certainly not going to go around saying 'drugs are bad. mmmmmkaaaaay' or anything.
using drugs, and having a problem with drugs, are two totally different things. thats like saying that because i go down the pub, i'm an alcoholic. methinketh not.
as for hating people who take drugs, some of my best friends use or have used drugs of various kinds. do i give a shit? no. because its nothing to do with me. just because i drink alcohol doesnt make me an evil person. so just because someone does drugs doesnt make them evil. thats like saying that breaking the speed limit, or drinking underage, is 'evil'. it may be wrong in the eyes of the law, and you may have to live with the consequences (!), but you dont instantly become 'bad'.
bpb, you can spout your arguments all you like, but its a bit dumb to do it on a 'drugs' board. you dont honestly think everyone here's gonna give that kinda bollocks a warm reception?!
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
Marijuana : 0
Tobacco :360,000
Ecstasy : 26 (gov. estimates that 500,000 pills are taken every weekend.
Illegal drug overdose : 3,800
Alcohol (not including accidents and crime) : 125,000
that is a very good point, and is the reason that i think that most drugs should be legalised, so that they are not cut or mixed with all sorts of random crap. they would be produced by legitimate companies, and would have safety warnings inside the packet (like the way you buy medication etc)
If I was surrounded by people like you when I went though cold turkey I would have never come of drugs and got my life back in order.
Unfortunately by saying the ones we ARE allowed are bad too, you're not putting forward any kind of goo argument for legalising the others.
[This message has been edited by byny (edited 08-10-2001).]
I totally see your point. I used to be against the legalisation of all drugs, even cannabis. But I watched a really good documentary on what the real problems of drugs are, and right nuff, most of the deaths were caused by the fact that they are illegal. I don't think something like heroin, which is PHYSICALLY addictive from the word go, should be available from the corner newsagents or anything. But fizzy drinks probably do you more harm than a hash brownie. The "war on drugs" is definately not working, they are not going to go away. That much is now clear. Perhaps it would be more mature of our society to accept this reality and work towards making it safer, through regulation and legalisation. This is simplifying the issue, I know. I can't help feeling that lives would be saved if the taboo was lifted. I'd rather buy e from the gov than a dealer.
I dunno. You could probably pull my arguement to shreads, but I take e so it would be hypocrytical of me to condemn anyone else for the same thing. It's not an ideal world. I try to keep an open mind on this issue, my view is not crystallised.
"See you later, cha"- ever heard this? It makes me consider murdering their scallie asses.
Buying drugs is no worse than buying from a multinational company which exploits people like Reebok or GAP. Some people make their lives growing hemp.
I have no objection to dope, I've had speed but it makes me sick. E - didn't like it, Acid - OK, but never again.
But there are certain drugs I just draw (no pun intended) the line at - for myself.
I have never taken Coke because I have been in too many rooms too many times, listening to arseholes banging on about me me me me me me.
I wouldn't take Heroine because it is just such a life changing horrible drug.
My mum and dad were pretty open about their drug taking, sex life etc and for that reason I think I grew up pretty stable and unlikely to abuse drugs.
What I can't get over though is the fact that I was completely anti-smoking until I was 25 - then because of peer pressure, I ended up smoking like no-ones business. !!