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They're "cultural separatists" or some such thing right?
but that is a PR deal, Nick Griffin has had more than one picture taken of him where he is giving a fascist salute.
It isn't up to a vigilantly organization, it's up to communities to decide whether or not they want those scum on their streets.
So who is it up to? The government? Personally I'd rather local community activists opposed the far right rather than the state who have their own agenda.
But to those who are serious about finding a punchbag who simply doesn't share their own views in life, that makes them just as bad... If not worse doesn't it? If they can't deal with people using their intelligence. What are you looking for her? To deter these people from excercising their rights to freedom of speech? To get revenge? You think it'll teach them a lesson?
here here!
BNP can do what they want inside the law. Especially as it often isn't local community activists but people from outside coming in to make trouble (the local community spends its time hiding as two lots of idiots turn their neighbourhood into a battleground)
That's a job for the police, or the CPS.
But let's make something clear here: there are limits to freedom of speech. Inciting racial hatred is a crime, and if I'm not wrong this 'person' had been charged with it and was going to stand trial next month.
Let's make another thing clear while we're at it: while the BNP and its leaders might manage to remain within the law for most of the time, the fact remains that they are still a bunch of subhuman cunts. I certainly make no excuse of celebrating the death of such people. And it is rather absurd to suggest those who do it are 'no better' than the naziboys themselves.
Had you been around in 1945, I'm sure you would have condemened your fellow countrymen when they celebrated with joy at the news of the death of Hitler. Bunch of twisted nazis, all those millions of British people for celebrating the death of a human being.
Nah, Boneheads don't learn. Far as I can tell most of them aren't going to be changing their political views any time soon.
But it certainly sends a clear message that they aren't welcome in the community.
You don't get it. Its not about "finding a punchbag who simply doesn't share their own views in life", its about self defence. The far right pretty much abandoned street politics due to the actions of AFA in the 80's. Before that, they were marching through black and asian areas and inciting racial assaults. That sort of thing needs to be physically confronted.
Quite often they don't though do they?
Do you actually know what you're on about?
Yep and its up to the police and CPS to bring charges and prosecute. Its not up to a bunch of vigilantes to dish up justice.
See point above.
Look back through the thread I'm one of the people celebrating his death. personally I'm glad he's dead. Doesn't mean I don;t think the hard-left are just as big a bunch of tossers. Its a bit just because I dislike Hitler, doesn't mean I don't also think that Stalin was a mass murdering pyschotic tyrant who was just as bad.
Hard left? Hard right? Virtually no difference at all. in fact instead of beating up his wife the lefties had talked to him they'd probably have agreed on a host of issues like how horrible fox-hunting is, how capitalism betrays the working-class and how the world is in the thrall of jewish cabal centred in Washington
Totally different circumstances. I certainly would have condemed it if Hitler had been taken prisoner and then killed - because that would have been murder. However I've got nothing against killing in war - or rather I accept its legitimate.
Oh dear. :rolleyes:
And then you charge them. If they are inside the law you don't. its not a difficult concept to understand.
yes - do you?
And for the record I don't condone anyone beating up the bloke's wife. As for the bloke himself, I normally would not condone it either though. But I do believe that citizens have a right to take direct action in certain circumstances. For instance, if there are (as indeed were back in the 70s and 80s) groups of neonazis marching through some areas shouting 'pakis out' or '******s out', I think it is perfectly acceptable for locals to kick seven shades of shit out of them if the police is failing to prevent such marches from taking place.
Your naivety is touching.
A lot more than you do by the look of it.
Yep.
And yes, the far right and the far left do agree on a lot of things, as NQA said.
I really don't understand that logic at all, you're not protecting anybody but proving you're just as nasty as they are. I thought it was up to the police to deal with that.
So 20 guys kicking and punching a middle-aged woman lying on the floor is "good"?
Very selective morals on here i see.
I don't have a problem with the idea of physically confrontating fascists, but that's an example of something out of order.
Ah, the old line that the far right and far left agree on a lot of things...that's something of a misconception. On the surface there may appear to be agreement of sorts, but it's for entirely different reasons.
Are you sure about that ? Benito Mussolini is probably the most celebrated example who made the {:rolleyes: transition :rolleyes:} from "left" to "right".Wasn`t too arduous a task was it?
Does it really matter what political label you give to tyranny if you are on the receiving end of a good shafting?
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The Left is diametrically opposed ideologically to the Right, the far-left and far-left oppose the status quo but that doesn't equate to ideological similarity.
What's this got to do with "tyranny?". Oh wait, I get it...zzzzzz :rolleyes:
Did you read the next comment I made where I said
that might clear things up a bit.
I await my enlightenment with bated breadth,so if you could do the honours ?
I`d say one jackboot has a big R on the bottom and the other has a big L on the bottom,as they stomp on your ass.
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Try coming back when you've got a proper understanding of what socialism really is.
This is pointless if you're not going to read my posts properly.
This is pointless if you're not going to read my posts properly.
Good point - I'm sure the Jewish employer in Poland cared little on whether he was being persecuted for being a Jew or being an employer.
Not that Soviet Communism bears any real relation.
It's still a left wing ideology...
Are you going to be a good "socialist" and share your wisdom with a "fucking mug" in need ?
From each wise socialist(?) according to his ability,to each "fucking mug" according to his needs ? I`m needy
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