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Schools: trainers more important than failing exams

Or so says a school in Stroud.

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How stupid. Obviouosly him wearing a pair of black trainers is far worse than him missing the exam, and ruining his life. What a great show of proportion that school isn't.

Mind, teachers have always been more fussed about petty rules, and looking powerful, than they ever have about education. No wonder faith in them is at an all-time low.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, that's because school is there to teach you to conform mindlessly to whatever rules get put in place by arbitary authority, as much as to teach you about anything useful.

    They should all be sacked on the spot.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    tbh, why did he go home? Why not just wear no shoes?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    deffinatley an over reaction.

    Im doing A-levels at my school and we were told exactly the same we would not be allowd to do the exams if we did not wear the uniform (no jeans/trousers). I was in school wearing trainers at some teach tried to send me home, in full knoledge i had an exam. It was lucky i managed to blag a bad leg, its ridiculous conserdering sending someone home for wearing trainers!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm quite lucky at my school, having read all these. My school won't send you home the first time they catch you, but they warn you that if you get caught again, you will have to miss your exam (although my HOY told me they'd just let us sit it at a different time instead).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it was the student who over reacted and is now regretting it. Schools do have these rules - he knows that - he was offered some shoes and decided to piss off home, no doubt feigning anger at the injustice of it all - and he's shot himself in the foot. :yippe:

    He'll learn some self-control one day...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it was the student who over reacted and is now regretting it. Schools do have these rules - he knows that - he was offered some shoes and decided to piss off home, no doubt feigning anger at the injustice of it all - and he's shot himself in the foot. :yippe:

    He'll learn some self-control one day...

    Strongly agree.

    The guy was offered shoes, he refused. School rules are school rules. I don't believe all this breeding conformity nonsense either. School rules and uniform allow a level playing field for everyone.

    If he genuinely did have a "medical problem with his feet" then surely he would have been carrying round a note explaining the situation, or at least someone would have been aware of it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    School rules are school rules.

    So a school rule is mroe important than a qualification that is vitally important for life?

    I feel Klintock is right, actually: school exists only to teach kids how to be good little citizens and obey all the stupid pathetic little rules that "our" leaders deign to throw at us.

    That, and teachers are petty little fools who make traffic wardens look like the very epitome of flexibility and compassion.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If he genuinely did have a "medical problem with his feet" then surely he would have been carrying round a note explaining the situation, or at least someone would have been aware of it.

    I did that one time, got a lecture from a teacher about it. Many teachers didn't take any notice of it - some will ask if you have a note and leave it at that; they don't even ask to see it most of the time...

    I remember being told about this uniform rule a while back, but my school don't really seem to use it - the amount of times I've walked past the head teacher wearing trainers and he's not said a word about it...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it would be ok, except for the fact that he's been wearing them for months and didn't get picked up on it. I wore trainers at my high school where there was a dress code and they weren't allowed - but nobody ever minded. But if on the day of my exam they had said that they weren't allowed then that's just nit picking.

    I feel however that Kermit's generalisation of teachers is a bit unfair, in my experience most teachers are quite good, you do get the couple of awkward ones on a power trip but they in my experience are of the minority.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It must depend on the school, I can count on the fingers of two hands the number of teachers at my school that were not petty nit-picking morons. Out of a teaching staff of about 40.

    Teachers that could teach too? Well, the number was even lower.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    It must depend on the school, I can count on the fingers of two hands the number of teachers at my school that were not petty nit-picking morons. Out of a teaching staff of about 40.

    Teachers that could teach too? Well, the number was even lower.

    Agreed. I found our particular school attrocious... and many of the older staff (not sure if they were there when you were) we too taken up with the so-called Grammar School status to even think that standards were appallingly low.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    absolutely pathetic.
    He should have been allowed to sit the exam and then if it was so important to them, then told to wear proper shoes next time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Moronic. Though at my school they reckoned you wouldn't be able to sit an exam with a beard in the sixth form. :yeees:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    black or dark trainers are part of the uniform at my school. but the article doesn't show teachers in a very good light, with which I agree.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i was almost kicked out of a school (ok it was a private school but none the less very stupid), because i was wearing converse boots instead of the school shoes everyone had to wear which made me consistantly strain my ankles, plus i had a doctors note saying that it was the shoes that were the problem.

    i think it's ridiculous the way some schools react over uniform when things like bullying is over looked.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You're all doolally. :eek:

    It was the kid who decided not to do the exam! He didn't have to go home and change his shoes - he decided to - and then :lol: realised he wouldn't have time to get back for the exam...oh yea. It's just a Kevin the teenager style strop.

    The school wants conformity, but it also wants students to do exams. The school's approach allowed for this - the Kevin's didn't.
    His was the stupid over reaction - I suspect deliberate (if not he's unlikely to have done very well in his exams anyway since he doesn't know how long it takes him to get to and from school)!

    Daft wanker making trouble. In afew years time he'll probably regret his phoney affront at being offered lost property shoes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    g_angel007 wrote:
    Agreed. I found our particular school attrocious

    I keep forgetting that I'm not the only one on here "lucky" enough to go to that fine old school in Bradford. Glad it's not just me though.

    I can never remember how far ahead of me you were. It's probably the crap ones who stayed till when I started, the good teachers all seemed to leave like rats deserting a sinking ship.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    I keep forgetting that I'm not the only one on here "lucky" enough to go to that fine old school in Bradford. Glad it's not just me though.

    I can never remember how far ahead of me you were. It's probably the crap ones who stayed till when I started, the good teachers all seemed to leave like rats deserting a sinking ship.

    i'm 26 this month... so is that 4 or 5 years ahead of you?

    I'm attempting to recall any teachers that stood out from the crap.

    One Mr. Horton did a splendid job of teaching. He actually made the lessons fun, which in turn, made them interesting, and so you paid attention, hence learned. He certainly knew how to throw the book down if somebody stepped out of line though. Honestly, I don't recall many others that seemed to be worth my time. English Teacher, not Penfold... had a big nose. He was ok, I guess!

    I was in top sets, across the board, and so many of the teachers I didn't have to deal with (when I bothered turning up, to be honest).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    So a school rule is mroe important than a qualification that is vitally important for life?

    No I don't think a school rule is more important than a qualification. The two however are intrinsically linked. The kid was offered an alternative and refused. The fact that it hadn't been noticed he was wearing trainers before doesn't hold any weight with the fact that he got pulled up on it then. Just because you've been getting away with something doesn't mean that it's OK.
    Kermit wrote:
    I feel Klintock is right, actually: school exists only to teach kids how to be good little citizens and obey all the stupid pathetic little rules that "our" leaders deign to throw at us.

    That's right. The only function of schools is to breed conformity. If you look back a sentence you'll also find that you believe schools provide exams that are "a qualification that is vitally important for life". Some consistency please.
    Kermit wrote:
    That, and teachers are petty little fools who make traffic wardens look like the very epitome of flexibility and compassion.

    What a grossly unfounded generalisation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    g_angel007 wrote:
    i'm 26 this month... so is that 4 or 5 years ahead of you?

    I'm 22 this month, so that should make it 4 years.
    One Mr. Horton did a splendid job of teaching.

    I remember the name, I think he retired just as I started.
    English Teacher, not Penfold... had a big nose. He was ok, I guess!

    Not Penfold :lol:

    Aldous was it?

    I always thought Milner was good, dunno if she was there when you were, I would expect so.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just because you've been getting away with something doesn't mean that it's OK.

    So why isn't wearing trainers at school OK? Because- shock, horror- it's a rule?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Baeda on this great day we greet thee...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    its a case of boy being an idiot and school overreacting, these things happens, lets hope both learnt their lessons
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The school didn't overreact. Everybody keeps saying this but it's blatantly not true.
    The school didn't say that he would have to miss the exam, or that he had to go home. They said there was a rule about shoes and made it easy for him to comply with the rule.
    The boy decided to go home and therefore miss the exam -he over reacted.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The school didn't overreact. Everybody keeps saying this but it's blatantly not true.
    The school didn't say that he would have to miss the exam, or that he had to go home. They said there was a rule about shoes and made it easy for him to comply with the rule.
    The boy decided to go home and therefore miss the exam -he over reacted.


    most schools would show leniancy the 1st time a student is caught breaking uniform and tell them to sort it out next time they come in
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's right. The only function of schools is to breed conformity. If you look back a sentence you'll also find that you believe schools provide exams that are "a qualification that is vitally important for life". Some consistency please.

    I'm not sure that I see any inconsistency there at all. What is taught to schoolkids is controlled centrally - and the qualification at the end is therefore part of socialisation and conformity.

    For many, schooling imparts the skills necessary to be a conformist part of the labour force, and critical thinking is NOT encouraged...........

    In fact, I have known South African professionals who liken state education over here to the old Bantu Education system in Apartheid South Africa.

    :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    So why isn't wearing trainers at school OK? Because- shock, horror- it's a rule?

    What's your point? Are you refuting your gross generalisation or the lack of consistency in your opinion?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not sure that I see any inconsistency there at all. What is taught to school kids is controlled centrally - and the qualification at the end is therefore part of socialisation and conformity.

    The qualification shows that you were able to interact with other people well enough to reach the stage where you were able to take an exam to gain a qualification. Education on mass needs to have guidelines there so that everyone is given a level playing field and order can be kept. The qualifications aren't given out on your ability to conform and become a nice complacent citizen. You need to look else where to draw Orwellian comparisons.
    For many, schooling imparts the skills necessary to be a conformist part of the labour force, and critical thinking is NOT encouraged...........

    I'm sorry if the schools you attended didn't encourage you to partake in thinking, but i assure you they're not all like that. Believe it or not I was actively encouraged to think as part of my education.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Baeda on this great day we greet thee...

    BWAAHAHAHAHAHAH

    That's the fella
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I always thought Milner was good, dunno if she was there when you were, I would expect so.

    Aldous... That's the fella.

    Aye - Mme Milner was quite good. Forgot about her!

    Funny thing is, I always though Miss Francis was alright - although she had a rather funny temper on her! I got on ok with her... Jim Coffey. Loud as Simba, but was very fair. Bradbury... Hmmm... Was never keen, although others rated him highly.

    It's all very blurry... Debbie Wolynski or something - always did alright with her too... She just started teaching when I was in her subject (albeit very briefly). Aye.

    The memories... :lol:
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