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Yet another 'voting help' website

This one is quite good... but remember the decision is yours ;)

http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/

Based on the policies I chose, apparently I should be voting for the Lib Dems... I thought that'd be the case.
Beep boop. I'm a bot.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    UK Independence Party.
    I would not waste my vote.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    According to that I'm some sort of fanatical Lib Dem (I got 103 for them) I didn't think it was possible to be such a thing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    which would be wasted by voting for them, though they do seem to be slightly more attractive without kilroy silk in their midsts

    though im going lib dem, i even flyer for them
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lib Dems followed by Greens. I definitely sympathise with both. I'm a polar opposite to the Conservatives.

    Knew that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Based on the policies I chose, apparently I should be voting for the Lib Dems... I thought that'd be the case.
    Me too. And, Renzo, have you not heard of Eddie Izzard and his radical liberals? You could be one of them...

    Storm the Houses of Parliament... but we'll pay for the door!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Positive for UKIP, Tories and Greens (!!!!!). Negative for Lib Dems and Labour.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm plus 34 for the Lib Dems, I think I'm not quite commie enough to be massively for them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    <center><a href="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/newlogo.jpg&quot; alt="Who Should You Vote For?" border="0"></a></center><h1>Who should I vote for?</h1><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_dark.gif&quot; width="16" height="20"> <font color="black">Labour 8</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_dark.gif&quot; width="58" height="20"> <font color="black">Conservative 29</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"><font color="black">Liberal Democrat -52 </font><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_light.gif&quot; width="104" height="20"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_dark.gif&quot; width="12" height="20"> <font color="black">UK Independence Party 6</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"><font color="black">Green -26 </font><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_light.gif&quot; width="52" height="20"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"></td></tr></table><br /><br /><b>You should vote: Conservative</b><p>The <a href="http://www.conservatives.com&quot; target=_blank>Conservative Party</a> is strongly against joining the Euro and against greater use of taxation to fund public services. The party broadly supported the Iraq war and backs greater policing and ID cards. The Tories are against increasing the minimum wage above the rate of inflation, and have committed to abolishing university tuition fees. They support 'virtual vouchers' for private education.<br /><br /><p>Take the test at <a href="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com">Who Should You Vote For</a>
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Your expected outcome:
    Liberal Democrat

    Your actual outcome:

    Labour -46
    Conservative -18
    Liberal Democrat 46
    UK Independence Party 7
    Green 55

    You should vote: Green
    The Green Party, which is of course strong on environmental issues, takes a strong position on welfare issues, but was firmly against the war in Iraq. Other key concerns are cannabis, where the party takes a liberal line, and foxhunting, which unsurprisingly the Greens are firmly against.

    hmm pretty much what i thought, didn't think i'd be so strongly in support of greens, but then i dont know their policies other than the environment obviously, i do care for the environment but am suspicious about the implications of sustainability on our freedom........i thought labour were ok but they seem to be getting more authoritarian, conservatives screw the little man over, and lib dems are a bit too liberal..........i want a middle of the road party.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    I'm plus 34 for the Lib Dems, I think I'm not quite commie enough to be massively for them.
    lib dems should take a almost neutral position in terms of tax ie no rises but no cuts, try to mkae it fairer and get more in unpaid taxes, cutting bureaucracy, reforming and take the civil liberties stance, id go for it

    i got lib dem anyway but only just about
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    <center><a href="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/newlogo.jpg&quot; alt="Who Should You Vote For?" border="0"></a></center><h1>Who should I vote for?</h1><h2>Your expected outcome:</h2>Liberal Democrat<br /><br /><br /><h2>Your actual outcome:</h2><br /><br /><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"><font color="black">Labour -2 </font><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_light.gif&quot; width="4" height="20"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"><font color="black">Conservative -37 </font><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_light.gif&quot; width="74" height="20"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_dark.gif&quot; width="88" height="20"> <font color="black">Liberal Democrat 44</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"><font color="black">UK Independence Party 0 </font><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_light.gif&quot; width="0" height="20"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" style="border-right:2px solid black;" height="20" valign="middle"></td><td width="50%" align="left" height="20" valign="middle"><img src="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/tiny_grey_dark.gif&quot; width="20" height="20"> <font color="black">Green 10</font></td></tr></table><br /><br /><b>You should vote: Liberal Democrat</b><p>The <a href="http://www.libdems.org.uk&quot; target=_blank>LibDems</a> take a strong stand against tax cuts and a strong one in favour of public services: they would make long-term residential care for the elderly free across the UK, and scrap university tuition fees. They are in favour of a ban on smoking in public places, but would relax laws on cannabis. They propose to change vehicle taxation to be based on usage rather than ownership.<br /><br /><p>Take the test at <a href="http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com">Who Should You Vote For</a>

    I'm not sure I agree with party policy on care for the elderly, tuition fees or cannabis regulation.

    I tend to think if you can pay you should and medical evidence suggest we should have reservations about the effects on mental and physical health thus legalisation of cannabis would be unwise.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lib dems should take a almost neutral position in terms of tax ie no rises but no cuts, try to mkae it fairer and get more in unpaid taxes, cutting bureaucracy, reforming and take the civil liberties stance, id go for it

    I do understand their position, it was a bit of a joke.

    I think the reason I didnt get higher on their score is because of my views on pensions and Europe.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    I tend to think if you can pay you should and medical evidence suggest we should have reservations about the effects on mental and physical health thus legalisation of cannabis would be unwise.

    Yes indeed there are potential problems, but are they being helped by the law?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Yes indeed there are potential problems, but are they being helped by the law?

    I think legalisation would lead to higher rates of use. Can you better explain your point? Then I can let you know what I think?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    I think legalisation would lead to higher rates of use. Can you better explain your point? Then I can let you know what I think?

    maybe initially yes but in the long term i don't think so.........what about decriminalisation in holland/canada/switzerland? usage hasn't shot up........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And of course for a brief overview of the policies by issue, with a site stylee, try -

    http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/election2005
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    I think legalisation would lead to higher rates of use. Can you better explain your point? Then I can let you know what I think?

    The law as it currently stands acts as a very very little deterant, and because it is in the hands of crooks the quality control is not there and the profits fund other nastier crime.

    Legal use might go up, but you could better give people information about use, you could make sure they werent smoking hash with shit in it.

    Legalisation has potential downsides, but not as many as making it illegal.

    It isnt a matter of legalisation being perfect, it wouldnt be. You have to look at the balance of harm.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    The law as it currently stands acts as a very very little deterant, and because it is in the hands of crooks the quality control is not there and the profits fund other nastier crime.

    Legal use might go up, but you could better give people information about use, you could make sure they werent smoking hash with shit in it.

    Legalisation has potential downsides, but not as many as making it illegal.

    It isnt a matter of legalisation being perfect, it wouldnt be. You have to look at the balance of harm.

    I agree the current system is a poor compromise with little to offer. Please elaborate though on the flaws on making cannabis illegal other than difficulty in obtaining a joint. Also, I was under the impression it was the cannabis itself, not contaminants which were the subject of medical concern?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    I agree the current system is a poor compromise with little to offer. Please elaborate though on the flaws on making cannabis illegal other than difficulty in obtaining a joint. Also, I was under the impression it was the cannabis itself, not contaminants which were the subject of medical concern?

    Well, there is the issue of people risking potentially very damaging criminal records, which could stop them getting jobs.

    There's the whole criminal market which has grown up around it and other drugs, once you are used to buying things like this then you may well try something else.

    There is the issue of what it does for society when many thousands of young people see the police as something to fear and loath because of the laws they enforce.

    There is the issue of pesticides, fertilizers etc. which are used on the plants with no thought to the end user.

    That and its so obviously a waste of police time, cannabis smokers represent so little threat to society its stupid, why should they be hounded?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Well, there is the issue of people risking potentially very damaging criminal records, which could stop them getting jobs.

    Absolutely no sympathy for that one
    bongbudda wrote:
    There's the whole criminal market which has grown up around it and other drugs, once you are used to buying things like this then you may well try something else.

    I guess. If you're of that disposition, though that's still very much an individual choice, that individual is responsible for their own actions, not society.
    bongbudda wrote:
    There is the issue of what it does for society when many thousands of young people see the police as something to fear and loath because of the laws they enforce.

    So you're saying it's an unfair law? I'm no killjoy, some of my friends smoke cannabis, I'm happy for them to do so but I very much believe in personal liberties, choice and responsibility.
    bongbudda wrote:
    There is the issue of pesticides, fertilizers etc. which are used on the plants with no thought to the end user.

    Same with food. They know that when they buy it. They don't have to.
    bongbudda wrote:
    That and its so obviously a waste of police time, cannabis smokers represent so little threat to society its stupid, why should they be hounded?

    If cannabis use leads to medical problems then it also leads to a cost to the tax payer. If the majority don't want to fund the consequences then I can see why they'd want to prevent the source. Similarly, I can see why the majority of society is unwilling to deal with the problems of the associated psychoses.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lib Dems for me at 43. Guess if I vote I should vote them. Am thick though and dunno when the vote is or how to vote.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lib Dems for me at 43. Guess if I vote I should vote them. Am thick though and dunno when the vote is or how to vote.

    May 5th 2005.

    You're probably on the Electoral roll somewhere. Have you been sent a polling card at home? Ours arrived today.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's what I hate about these tests, they NEVER place me correctly. This time I got UKIP :crazyeyes
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dear Wendy wrote:
    That's what I hate about these tests, they NEVER place me correctly. This time I got UKIP :crazyeyes

    Oh no! Those crazy Europeans are plotting to chuck us out!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    Absolutely no sympathy for that one

    I guess. If you're of that disposition, though that's still very much an individual choice, that individual is responsible for their own actions, not society.

    So you're saying it's an unfair law? I'm no killjoy, some of my friends smoke cannabis, I'm happy for them to do so but I very much believe in personal liberties, choice and responsibility.

    Same with food. They know that when they buy it. They don't have to.

    If cannabis use leads to medical problems then it also leads to a cost to the tax payer. If the majority don't want to fund the consequences then I can see why they'd want to prevent the source. Similarly, I can see why the majority of society is unwilling to deal with the problems of the associated psychoses.

    So you think that people caught with one spliff should be denied work, how does that help?

    Oh, thats a new one to me, I didnt know there was quality control and guidelines with information given out when people bought cannabis, I must be behind the times.

    I presume you know that the average recreational drug user costs the UK only 1% of the cost of drugs.

    And phycosis caused by alcohol consumption? Why is that different and people seem willing to fund that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    So you think that people caught with one spliff should be denied work, how does that help?

    Oh, thats a new one to me, I didnt know there was quality control and guidelines with information given out when people bought cannabis, I must be behind the times.

    I presume you know that the average recreational drug user costs the UK only 1% of the cost of drugs.

    And phycosis caused by alcohol consumption? Why is that different and people seem willing to fund that.

    People know the consequences of their actions when they choose to do them. If they don't we need an education effort, not a lack of policing effort.

    I'm afraid you've picked the wrong argument with alcohol here. I don't drink and I'd encourage people to stop doing that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    People know the consequences of their actions when they choose to do them. If they don't we need an education effort, not a lack of policing effort.

    So you are saying that people caught in possession of cannabis should be denied work? I ask again, how does that help?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    So you are saying that people caught in possession of cannabis should be denied work? I ask again, how does that help?

    No, I'm saying they should think about how it will affect their future lives before taking it. No-one forces someone to be a cannabis user.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ginner wrote:
    No, I'm saying they should think about how it will affect their future lives before taking it. No-one forces someone to be a cannabis user.

    Well no, but the punishment should fit the crime.

    Even compared to the other drugs in Class C cannabis doesnt deserve to be there, its considerably safer than the Benzo's like Valium.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Well no, but the punishment should fit the crime.

    Even compared to the other drugs in Class C cannabis doesnt deserve to be there, its considerably safer than the Benzo's like Valium.

    I'm not really interested in relative punishments. I have a personal strict no tolerance of drugs that's not going to change. I'd just give up and work on someone more open to your views if I was you?
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