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so you've learned how to use the potty...well done...you'll be getting pubes in no time :thumb:
They have some interesting points but are rather selective when it comes to going into detail and they don'y prove there is any economic harm from immigration even if they have some evidence that the benfits are not as great as some would think.
They still have to fall back on their bullshit 'culture' arguments.........
We'd better start building!!!! Goodbye greenfields!!!
ps must buy some shares in house-building firms! Could make a fortune!
Mystic Meg by the sound of it...
Immigration is different.
Although I agree with the investing in house building advice. :yes:
The greenfield arguments is the lamest one i've heard yet.
OMG any more little brown people coming into the country and we'll either:
a) Sink
b) Have to start building housing for them all over the lake district
c) Increase tax 50% to accommodate all the ones that scrounge of the state
d) Insert generic Daily Mail scare story here
e) Offer up all our virgin daughters to respect their religion
Forget all the things you've listed above - they are simply "red herrings", and total rubbish!
We already have a need for more housing, particularly in the South-East, and all I'm saying is that this need will increase, so don't go all "drama queen" on me Capt!
13 April 2005
Countryside campaigners who fear green fields will be concreted over by new housing estates have called for the environment and rural issues to be at the heart of planning in the South East of England.
They also want a stronger focus on meeting local needs.
The Campaign to Protect Rural England issued its appeal with just two days left for the public to comment on the Government's draft plan for the region.
It sets out how the South East will develop over the next 20 years and covers housing, transport, leisure and economic development.
Edward Dawson, CPRE's south east regional director, said: "While there are some good policies in this Plan these are undermined by other policies and a disproportionate emphasis given to economic growth.
"Whole sections of the Plan seem to have been drawn up in ignorance of other sections so it is not surprising if some policies appear to contradict one another. The countryside and the wider environment risk being sidelined as a result.
"We recognise there is a shortage of affordable housing in parts of the South East. The Plan needs to ensure that the housing proposed really will meet those needs. But we fear that much of the new housing proposed will simply add to the supply of expensive market housing out of reach of many local people, stoking demand from elsewhere."
The CPRE welcomed the decision by the Regional Assembly not to proceed with the higher level of housing initially proposed.
Nevertheless they said up to 32,000 houses may be built in the South East every year for the next 20 years.
CPRE said it believed that this level of building is unsustainable and will place huge pressures on transport, water supply and public services and destroy large areas of countryside.
Of course i'm exaggerating. Scary thing is ... not all that much.
You said:
OMG any more little brown people coming into the country and we'll either:
a) Sink
NO - stupid remark
b) Have to start building housing for them all over the lake district
NO - nonsense
c) Increase tax 50% to accommodate all the ones that scrounge of the state
NO - rubbish
d) Insert generic Daily Mail scare story here
NO - stupid remark
e) Offer up all our virgin daughters to respect their religion
NO - rubbish
GROSS EXAGGERATION!!!!
NO!
really man, try to relax a little and stay away from the !
If they were so bothered why didnt they campaign earlier?
And 32,000 over 20 years isnt all that many.
And there are already moves in the London area to use brown field sites first.
"In the London and the South East, there's a different set of challenges. We're faced with a huge shortage of homes that has built up over decades. House prices have been rising much faster than wages, and the market has failed to deliver.
That's why we are building 200,000 extra homes in the Thames Gateway - the largest brownfield site in Western Europe - and the other 3 Growth Areas.
And it's why we are providing resources for an extra 10,000 social rented homes a year by 2008 - a 50% increase compared with today.
Indeed, over the next 3 years, we will provide over 115,000 new affordable homes for rent and low cost homeownership.
We're beginning to make an impact. The number of affordable homes is at last increasing again. With the 4 new Growth Areas - and our additional investment in housing - we will increase the supply of new homes from 146,000 a year to 175,000.
But that is at the lower end of Kate Barker's recommendations. She said that, in order to create equilibrium and stability in the market, we might need as many as 100,000 more houses each year on top of that!"
From John Prescott's speech to the National Housing Federation Annual Conference
And, lets face it, farming in parts of the South East is totally moribond anyway, so you might as well use the land more effectively.