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If we were invaded......

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    DEANO MAC wrote:
    fuckin ell!....earl grey?

    the first thing to fall is going to be the tetleys tea bags place

    you really think anyone stupid/good enough to try and invade britain is going to have classy tastes!

    thats why im hiding in the earl grey place, they'll never find me
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Personally I think it was more to do with madness with drugs....
    I'm guessing that the drugs induced your madness. If not, what was it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    juanito wrote:
    I'm guessing that the drugs induced your madness. If not, what was it?

    Queen Victoria,
    I'm not much nourished by modern love,
    will you come into my life
    with your sorrow and your black carriages,
    And your perfect
    memories.


    If only it was my madness or drugs......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If only it was my madness or drugs......
    What is it then? You have some non-druggy, non-mad reason for your apparent derangement?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish wrote:
    Ouch.

    ;)
    see ...your a good man at heart ...but the eyes decieve the heart ...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    juanito wrote:
    What is it then? You have some non-druggy, non-mad reason for your apparent derangement?

    Queen Victoria,
    the Twentieth Century belongs to you and me.
    Let us be two severe giants not less lonely for our partnership,
    who discolour test tubes in the halls of Science,
    who turn up unwelcome at every World's Fair,
    heavy with proverbs and corrections,
    confusing the star-dazed tourists
    with our incomparable sense of loss.


    The great Mr. C has gone for a lie down in a darkened room .....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    the first thing to fall is going to be the tetleys tea bags place

    you really think anyone stupid/good enough to try and invade britain is going to have classy tastes!

    thats why im hiding in the earl grey place, they'll never find me
    lol! :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The great Mr. C has gone for a lie down in a darkened room .....
    Who is he? You or a chum on your ward?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lol well the threads now about drugs and tea lol :),
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    GoodFella wrote:
    Lol well the threads now about drugs and tea lol :),
    thats life.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    GoodFella wrote:
    Lol well the threads now about drugs and tea lol :),

    Drugs, tea and war ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i preffer "nescafe" myself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    DEANO MAC wrote:
    i preffer "nescafe" myself.

    tutt tutt


    and no, it isn't a train
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    DEANO MAC wrote:
    i preffer "nescafe" myself.

    so do i if i want a cup of coffee

    but i want tea, tea for me is a refreshing drink, coffee is an energy spiking drink, well not so much energy but caffeine

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    GoodFella wrote:
    Anyway just been thinking recently, i know this wud never happen, but lets just turn the tables a little. If Britain was invaded say by a superior force, just for examples sake lets say the Russians (yes i know there not superior, just an example) wud u join and fight for or support sum sort of rebel force or wud u just sit and let the invasion and occupation take its place.


    If your country is overwhelmed by a vastly superior force then there is little point in attempting resistance militarily at that point. You will just be shot or otherwise killed or detained.

    Your best bet is most likely to wait it out and then attempt to organise something after the new system is in place, unless you decide that it's no worse than what you had before, which for most people may well be the case anyway.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It would depend upon the context of the invasion.

    Assuming the country I was living in was formerly a democracy and was invaded by a tyranny then I would like to think that i would resist.

    If the country was a tyranny and the invaders intended to establish democracy then it would not make sense to resist.

    If it was tyranny invaded by tyranny then it would also not be worth resisting.

    I would never take up arms purely for a nationalistic/patriotic reason.........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tyranny. Democracy.

    Could someone/anyone tell me the/any difference :chin:

    Knowledge is power...so I`ve been told.

    seeker
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Given that no country is going to undertake the financial burden and losses of an invasion only to ensure full and legitimate grassroots self determination of the invaded populace, the concept of "installed" democracy is ridiculous from the start.

    I would resist by any guerilla means at my disposal, and that would include targetting any and all fellow countrymen who gave aid or comfort to the invader, just as we see the Iraqis legitimately doing to those who collaborate with our forces and corporate pirates.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Like others have been saying, I'd fight whatever I consider a good cause.

    Equally, I'd refuse to fight any dirty, unjustified wars my country decided to engage in.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Like others have been saying, I'd fight whatever I consider a good cause.

    Equally, I'd refuse to fight any dirty, unjustified wars my country decided to engage in.

    Would you agree to fight any "justified" wars "someone else`s country" decided to engage in?

    seeker
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The only "justified" war is one waged in self defense to stop the perpetrators of outward aggression.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The only "justified" war is one waged in self defense to stop the perpetrators of outward aggression.

    By SELF defence,do you mean the individual self,or some abstract notion of MY (fill in the blank with any group/clan/tribe/race/country etc.,etc.) ?

    seeker
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    seeker wrote:
    Would you agree to fight any "justified" wars "someone else`s country" decided to engage in?

    seeker
    If I were member of the armed forces, yes.

    But I'd rather be court martialled than fight people's dirty wars.

    Desertions in the US army are running extemely high at the moment. It's no coincidence.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well the notion of "war" is a condition pertaining to nation states, not individuals, therefore in the context of the definition of war, I refer to self defense of nations under attack by an extra-territorial aggressor state.

    Thus by example, WWI & II were, for our part, justified to curtail the expansionist ambitions of the successive wars of aggression waged by Germany. All other militaristic pursuits subsequent to that war, again for our part, were themselves acts of trans-national aggression and thus not justified.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Leonard Cohen *dreams*


    :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yea i would...well you could already say northern ireland is occupied by the brits but it's not the same situation as a full blown invasion but yea...i would be very angry and would probably join a group if a load of planes just flew overhead and starting bombing all over the place
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    id try to influence change whilst in the mean time try to kill the leadership of the invasion force or stir up mass support even if by lying
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well the notion of "war" is a condition pertaining to nation states, not individuals, therefore in the context of the definition of war, I refer to self defense of nations under attack by an extra-territorial aggressor state.

    So,is "war" a size thing ?

    Can a "nation state" be an individual ? If not,why not?

    seeker
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Yes, I would take up arms against anyone who Invaded the UK. And while I was at it, I would probably shoot a whole bunch of Chavs, too. Bastards... :mad:

    But yes, I would. I'd fight against anyone who Invaded, unless they had good cause to, e.g: Sorting out a problem here, and being honest about why, e.g: REAL Liberation. Unlike Iraq. If htey invaded to just take over, I would fight by whatever means necessary, probably a Guerilla War.
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