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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    apparently they dont...check the ingredients list as i cant see it...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Arent these the pills you did a thread on a while back, they have something in them which is supposed to turn into TMA-2 in the body?

    I assumed these were the same.

    Its rubbish of course because TMA-2 would be slightly more powerful than the effects you describe.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    bongbudda wrote:
    Its rubbish of course because TMA-2 would be slightly more powerful than the effects you describe.

    Is that similar to 4MTA?
    My mate brought some back from the dam a few years back - they were just an ordinary pill with a splitter (Flatliner). I only necked one but it blew my head off.

    My mate took several and didn't stop greening all night long.
    Weekender Offender 
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not really TMA-2 is sort of related to mescaline, its in the same family of drugs as MDMA and all those, but its quite different.

    Its a long lasting and intense hallucinogen and of course, its class A.
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Where did you get that info from Hemisphere? Just for the record. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hemisphere
    No I can't say I have then. I know people who are just sick everytime they swallow one because they're body rejects it. I was told that would be the worse thing to happen.

    ok i didnt really mean to be so abrasive in my reply. you are right in the fact that the puking thing can happen when you munch a pill, even just after taking it...its happened to me, i double dropped two 007s at the same time (burp!) and about 10 mins later my mind started playing tricks, towit my body replied 'fuck no' and yacked em back up...unfortunately they had already done their magic...and they were strong.....FUCKING VERY STRONG...and i havent touched anything bar weed since...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i've never puked on pills...you're right bashir (if that is your real name :chin: ) if you swallow multiple pills in one go you get the urge to puke them up but you never do and once the buzz hits ya thats you well on your way...sometimes i feel like puking but nothing ever comes up and it's like there's just air inside you...dunno though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Perhaps the urge to puke is your body telling you not to neck loads of pills in one go.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Perhaps the urge to puke is your body telling you not to neck loads of pills in one go.

    aye but it's not the body telling you not to take multiple ecstacy pills, just pills...or maybe the body has a mind of its own aswell that has your interests at heart....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It normally revolts when I try and put too much booze in so I think it operates seperately from me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    21qtpie21 wrote:
    Imthinking about trying X but im kinda scared.. Do you think if i only take half a pill ill be ok and not die :heart: Amy

    ok look amy ~ first off X will fuck with anyone and i know alot of people that only took a half a pill and they still ended up in the hospital ~ and durgs in general fuck with u ~ i know u have heard this before ~ but look ive had to live my life without a mother since i was 4 and its really hard to know that she ODed and that kills me every day ~ so i have had to grow up with someone that doesnt give a damn about me so please just think really hard about what might happen and how it will effect other people
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ok look amy ~ first off X will fuck with anyone and i know alot of people that only took a half a pill and they still ended up in the hospital ~ and durgs in general fuck with u ~ i know u have heard this before ~ but look ive had to live my life without a mother since i was 4 and its really hard to know that she ODed and that kills me every day ~ so i have had to grow up with someone that doesnt give a damn about me so please just think really hard about what might happen and how it will effect other people

    I'm sorry about your mother, but that doesnt make all drug use massively dangerous.

    Do you really know 'loads' of people who ended up in hospital because of MDMA? For what problems if you dont mind me asking.

    MDMA is relatively a safe drug, granted there are potential risks, but many people see those as comparative with other past times such as horse riding or fishing.

    Drugs are not one item, each one has its own set of risks, lumping them together helps no-one.

    I do my best to warn people on here about the risks of the actions they take, it really is best to educate people rather than attempting to scare or guilt them in to not doing it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For any of you that didnt know, i have recently had a liver transplant and im sure this was needed due to mdma. Although this wasnt confirmed, im pretty convinced ecstacy was the cause of my liver failure.

    The thing is, i rarely drunk alcohol, and it wasnt as if i was necking 10 pills every weekend, i'd have normally about 2/3 pills once a month, on a weekend, so i dont think i was over doing it.

    christmas day during the evening me and my mates went round to a mates house and we all dropped, and i had a great evening, woke up the next day with a hell of a comedown, but i thought oh its ok i'll be fine tomorrow, but i wasnt.

    during the next week or so i contracted severe jaundice, and i went through the first half of january not eating anything and basically staying in bed all day because i was too ill to do anything.

    i then had a hospital appointment on a wednesday, about half way through january, saw a doctor, talked with him, and i had some blood taken, and that was it, i went home.

    come friday, the phone rang, and it was my doctor, he said the blood test results were very worrying and that he thought it would be best if i went in and stayed in my local hospital for a few days for observation.

    so i went into hospital, ended up staying there for a week, during that week i had numerous blood tests, and things going into me via drips. after a week, they thought it was that serious that i needed to be transfered to a liver specialist hospital in london, as they had noticed liver problems in my local hospital.

    so i went up by ambulance to the london hospital, i was seen by many doctors and they thought i was so ill that the only chance i had for survival was for a liver transplant, and because my condition was so serious they put me right at the top of the waiting list.

    luckily for me a suitable donor was found in just a day, and i had the operation at the beginning of february, and the operation was a complete success, i did have some problems with breathing after the operation so i had to stay in intensive care for three weeks, but after that i was fine, and here i am now, well on the road for recovery.

    I have to take a selection of drugs during the day, every day (including drugs to stop my body rejecting the liver) but its certainly better than being dead.

    Anyway, if all of this was due to mdma, it just proves that it is NOT a safe drug as some people say, and i'm certainly probably never going to touch mdma again, this whole experience has made me seriously think that taking mdma is a bit of a gamble.

    Scary isnt it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    oh man im so sorry to hear that...glad to know you're on your way to recovery...

    if you dont mind me asking did you discuss your drug use with your doctor...if so what did he say (if you dont mind publishing it online i can completely understand if you dont want to).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    no i didnt, and i know i was a idiot for not talking to the doctors about it, but they never asked. they had asked me wether i had been using needles but that was it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I dont think anyone is seriously suggesting its a 'safe' drug.

    It can be very harmful, what people do say however is that it is a relatively safe past time when compared with other things without the social stigma.

    For example if I were to say I was a horse rider no-one would say 'oh god you're going to die you shouldnt get involved in that shit' but it is considerably more dangerous.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jake0 if you're still able and if you still feel up to it, maybe you should go back and consult with the doctors. The opportunity to know isnt lost because you arent in pain anymore. This might even help them understand your case a bit more and so aid future treatment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Martin; You box is full mate.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    not anymore :D
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