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Ketamine
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Thinking of taking ketamine as a combination some time fairly soon...heard it works well with acid/mushrooms and/or E...so any experiences?
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Always be carefull when trying out new combos and make sure you have people you trust around you.
Don't do too much k when on ecstacy otherwise you'll find yourself k-holed. I had 1/4g and 3 pills on Saturday and loved it. Made it all the more trippy but was very enjoyable.
if you've never done K before STRONGLY recommend you at least do it in isolation first...it can be quite an overwhelming experience...and at least do it with someone whos not to fucked and has done it before...
Mixing Ket and Acid...you're mad...
If your mind messes up, you're also ingesting something that's primary purpose is to mess your body up (well, to anesthetise) so it could impare your ability to be able to change your environment and thus make things better, if something goes pear shaped with the 'cid.
i've never taken them in combination, in fact i havent taken cid or k at all...but i've seen enough people messed up on Ket let alone cid...
by mixing any of these your are multiplying the possibility of something going wrong...personally i cant see how a combination of any of these is a brilliant idea...or candy flipping...coming down while tripping? fuck that...
May not be the smartest thing but it's very enjoyable. You wouldn't really know seeing as you've never done ketamine before.
I also agree, make sure you do k on it's own first before you try any combos. It is a very enjoyable drug which my group of friends consume many a gram a week.
I've done K before so i know what i'm doing...
What's the exact problem with combining it with E? Something to do with conflicting effects on the body? Or purely the pyschological experience.
As for candyflipping...not difficult to avoid coming down when tripping, just prolong the E by taking enough to keep you up until you come down from the trip.
basically you're taking Ketamine, an anesthetic which depresses the CNS and E which stimulates is, its tearing your body in two directions.
Mixing K and cid is absolutely crazy in my opinion, just the thought of the combination is :shocking:
With E and Ket the psychological thing is...well...how long is a piece of string, totally unpredictable...and further more, how do you know whats gonna be in the pills you get? probably MDMA/MDA...but having phet on Ket would not be best...
just because you can get up the next day and go to work does not necessarily mean you are fine...
the question i'd ask myself is, whats better? combining drugs to explore them, and weighing up what you think the experience will be worth...while taking into account the risks?
or you could just do them in isolation and try to explore the drug more in isolation...for example lots of people have taken E...but i bet those who havent done it with a load of good mates (for example) at a rave or wherever is enjoyable wish they'd explored the drug more...
Not enough people explore the possibilities of what they experiences they can create for themselves while on a drug...they just think if they do more in ever more elaborate concotions that the drug will do the work for them and just make it more fun...
Its not the neccesarily what or how much you do rather than what you do with the experience...
Doing little bumps of ket with pills is fine i've found, just so you get the slight visual and sensory change while still ebing able to walk!
I personally think ket is better as an afterparty sort fo thing or by itself as too much ket kinda swamps the effect of pills.
CK - coke and ket is nice too
Isnt there an added risk with ketomine of fitting? I know of somebody that has ,but dont know what they mixed it with.
Be careful what you say there, ketamine actually has very little effect on the CNS and does not depress the breathing in normal doses. In massive doses it will but not 'recreational' doses.
It potenciates other depressants like alcohol or benzo's and for this reason it should NEVER be used with alcohol.
It is this minimal effect on the CNS which makes it a very effective anthestic.
I am hoping that Bongbudda, with his extensive knowledge, will be able to step in here and help me out with the possible interactions between E and K and K and cocaine?
Physically I'm not really sure that it would be overtly dangerous to mix MDMA with ket in small doses, though at higher doses the knock out effect of the ketamine may well cause problems with the MDMA action.
I certainly wouldnt recomend it in a club where you can spin out, fall over, get robbed, touched up etc.
As for ketamine and cocaine, seems a very odd mixture to me they are two drugs at the poloar opposite of the scale from each other.
That was my thinking as well.
I can't find any information on whether it causes fitting on its own, so I believe if it happens it is stupidly rare. It is more likely that the person you mentioned mixed it with depressants or other drugs, or had an adverse reaction to it, or had an existing condition. Has anyone else heard of Ketamine bringing on fits?
(oh and as for mixing it with downers LadyJade, I mentioned that already though its always good to get another source)
i also believe i was stressing the possible problems danger of mixing the two...what i was getting at was the fact that Ket has been known to bring on symptoms such as confusion in certain people, i've been out with people who loved this combo (Pills and Ket) and at least one of them a night would get so spun out they'd have to physically be taken home, in quite a frightenened state...usually after about 2 or so hours....
I wasnt really saying you were wrong, just that ketamine really doesnt have much effect on the CNS which is why its still used for elderly people sometimes who have dodgy hearts.
on re-reading possibly yes...hardly 'emotive' though....but following the thread of discussion i perhaps could have indicated that the effect was minimal...i didnt think of pointing it out because as an anesthetic lack of a depressant effect is an extremely desirable characteristic anyway...
More than anything I just really fail to see why anyone would want to take ketamine in a club, its potentially a very strong drug experience, not one you want to do in the company of strangers.
no this is true...but i have an idea and i did not mean to imply that K can't be an enjoyable experience which it can and has been for quite a few people...
what i was pointing out was the potential pitfalls that do exist...
I havent done quite a few things but I feel I know enough about them to comment, speedballs for example I can say I've never tried, but I do know are probably not a wise idea.
you get the general messyness and wierdness from the ket but the coke keeps you more alert and up so you are still able to move around and stuff and the general high off of the coke. i guess speed would work in the same way but i'm never touching that ever again.
ket in small does can be fun. but small being the word and know lots of people who have fucked up even just on the one bump and doing too much and spacking out, cue me looking afetr her in the toilets for about an hour til she could walk again properly.
Done ketamine whilst on alcohol too many times to count. Makes it all the more enjoyable.
Ketamine on it's own is a wonderful drug but with E it enhances the E. As for alcohol it enhances the K.
Yeah, and ketamine enhances the sedative effect of the alcohol which could lead you to passing out and potentially falling into a coma.
The line 'just because you can doesnt mean its a good idea' comes to mind.