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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
Sorry about the big post. It's a quote of the conclusions of one Dr Gamma on his studying several scientific tests on the effects on memory of MDMA:
At the end (skip the rest, though it's worth the read if you take E regularly) it states: "The present studies suggest a no-effect level in the range of 300-400 mg MDMA per month or
below" Anyone know how much that is, pill-wise? More or less?

Cheers for any informed answers,

Palas

Here's the passage in question:

'Conclusion and outlook'
The majority of studies, including the methodologically most sound ones,
found worse memory performance in regular Ecstasy users who had typically been
exposed to the drug several times per month for over a year. These differences were
mostly moderate, with test scores usually in the normal range. Currently the most
plausible explanation for these findings are MDMA-induced (potentially neurotoxic)
changes in the brain serotonin system, which may be amplified in recreational
settings involving hot ambient temperature, lack of fluid intake and concomitant
cannabis use. Further, a stressful lifestyle with insufficient sleep, recuperation and
food intake may also adversely affect memory. Finally, the possibility of relevant pre-existing,
possibly subclinical, differences cannot be excluded. The question of
recovery of memory with increasing time of drug abstinence is not settled and
represents one of the most pressing issues for future research in this area. Likewise,
future studies need to isolate the possibly substantive contribution of lifestyle to the
observed memory impairments. Estimates of a no-effect threshold for Ecstasy use
may guide dosing in experimental and therapeutic uses of MDMA. The present
studies suggest a no-effect level in the range of 300-400 mg MDMA per month or
below. However, this estimate is essentially speculative owing to the many
confounding adverse effects of the recreational setting, and, more fundamentally, to
methodological difficulties in establishing a causal relationship between MDMA and
memory alterations.

Comments

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have read all of that post seen as I have been having a hard time since I stopped taking pills but I wish these scientist guys wouldnt use such big words because Im only 16 for fucks sake and couldnt understand some of it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it works out to around 1g per pill... summing like that n e way....
    Though pills vary in size a lot.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    I think it works out to around 1g per pill... summing like that n e way....
    Though pills vary in size a lot.
    I have had some pills which have blue specks in them..What could that be?
    They've usually been ok..



    [This message has been edited by tinker (edited 28-11-2000).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Usually between 0 - 150 milligrams MDMA per pill. Taking more than 150 mg of MDMA is not a good idea for your brain. You can always tell a person that has taken too much MDMA - they are unable to stop their eyes from rolling. The dreaded seratonin syndrom where the same amount of the drug does not produce the same effect.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    does anyone actually listen to medical reports by doctors, they only talk bollocks.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nah I get soo much shit left for me on the kitchen table by my mum bout drugs(she works at doctors surgery n takes a cvopy of every warning home with her)...
    It's all bollox they dont know what theyre talking about
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    damn right. hehe
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Amethyst! Nice to see you back in here. Where have you been??

    Ed
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Apparently a tablet containing about 120mg of MDMA is considered a desirable dose of ecsatsy.

    Ive got some info here about doves and the levels they have in them.

    Dove,Off white,scored back : 29mg MDMA
    Dove,plain white,scored back : 134mg MDMA
    Dove,beige colour,scored back : 170mg MDEA
    Dove,Crumbly,white,clear motif,scored back: 149mg MDEA
    Dove,white with beige speckles,scored back : 111mg MDMA
    Dove, off-white,slightly bevelled,bird motif not crisp,scored back: contained ketamine and ephedrine.

    These are just results from tests that have been done on these pilss obviously they dont apply to everysingle one in the whole world!!
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