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Sorry about the big post. It's a quote of the conclusions of one Dr Gamma on his studying several scientific tests on the effects on memory of MDMA:
At the end (skip the rest, though it's worth the read if you take E regularly) it states: "The present studies suggest a no-effect level in the range of 300-400 mg MDMA per month or
below" Anyone know how much that is, pill-wise? More or less?
Cheers for any informed answers,
Palas
Here's the passage in question:
'Conclusion and outlook'
The majority of studies, including the methodologically most sound ones,
found worse memory performance in regular Ecstasy users who had typically been
exposed to the drug several times per month for over a year. These differences were
mostly moderate, with test scores usually in the normal range. Currently the most
plausible explanation for these findings are MDMA-induced (potentially neurotoxic)
changes in the brain serotonin system, which may be amplified in recreational
settings involving hot ambient temperature, lack of fluid intake and concomitant
cannabis use. Further, a stressful lifestyle with insufficient sleep, recuperation and
food intake may also adversely affect memory. Finally, the possibility of relevant pre-existing,
possibly subclinical, differences cannot be excluded. The question of
recovery of memory with increasing time of drug abstinence is not settled and
represents one of the most pressing issues for future research in this area. Likewise,
future studies need to isolate the possibly substantive contribution of lifestyle to the
observed memory impairments. Estimates of a no-effect threshold for Ecstasy use
may guide dosing in experimental and therapeutic uses of MDMA. The present
studies suggest a no-effect level in the range of 300-400 mg MDMA per month or
below. However, this estimate is essentially speculative owing to the many
confounding adverse effects of the recreational setting, and, more fundamentally, to
methodological difficulties in establishing a causal relationship between MDMA and
memory alterations.
At the end (skip the rest, though it's worth the read if you take E regularly) it states: "The present studies suggest a no-effect level in the range of 300-400 mg MDMA per month or
below" Anyone know how much that is, pill-wise? More or less?
Cheers for any informed answers,
Palas
Here's the passage in question:
'Conclusion and outlook'
The majority of studies, including the methodologically most sound ones,
found worse memory performance in regular Ecstasy users who had typically been
exposed to the drug several times per month for over a year. These differences were
mostly moderate, with test scores usually in the normal range. Currently the most
plausible explanation for these findings are MDMA-induced (potentially neurotoxic)
changes in the brain serotonin system, which may be amplified in recreational
settings involving hot ambient temperature, lack of fluid intake and concomitant
cannabis use. Further, a stressful lifestyle with insufficient sleep, recuperation and
food intake may also adversely affect memory. Finally, the possibility of relevant pre-existing,
possibly subclinical, differences cannot be excluded. The question of
recovery of memory with increasing time of drug abstinence is not settled and
represents one of the most pressing issues for future research in this area. Likewise,
future studies need to isolate the possibly substantive contribution of lifestyle to the
observed memory impairments. Estimates of a no-effect threshold for Ecstasy use
may guide dosing in experimental and therapeutic uses of MDMA. The present
studies suggest a no-effect level in the range of 300-400 mg MDMA per month or
below. However, this estimate is essentially speculative owing to the many
confounding adverse effects of the recreational setting, and, more fundamentally, to
methodological difficulties in establishing a causal relationship between MDMA and
memory alterations.
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Though pills vary in size a lot.
They've usually been ok..
[This message has been edited by tinker (edited 28-11-2000).]
It's all bollox they dont know what theyre talking about
Ed
Ive got some info here about doves and the levels they have in them.
Dove,Off white,scored back : 29mg MDMA
Dove,plain white,scored back : 134mg MDMA
Dove,beige colour,scored back : 170mg MDEA
Dove,Crumbly,white,clear motif,scored back: 149mg MDEA
Dove,white with beige speckles,scored back : 111mg MDMA
Dove, off-white,slightly bevelled,bird motif not crisp,scored back: contained ketamine and ephedrine.
These are just results from tests that have been done on these pilss obviously they dont apply to everysingle one in the whole world!!