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WTF are you taking? I asked him to answer a question. You can shove your self-righteous attitude up your arse.
Or you could behave a little nicer towards someone who obviously needs it
Show me where I was nasty. I think considering his abusive behaviour he's getting off lightly.
I'd find it degrading to be talked to the way you wanted lukesh to answer your question.
I'd talk that way to anyone. I will NOT treat him differently because he's too immature to post here.
He's entitled to his opinions, and I think if there are people in college who think that the EMA is somehow scabby or whatever then yes they are snobby asswipes.
Well, he's clearly not, this isn't the first instance, and won't be the last.
That's NOT the point.
Erm, yeah, cause in between *bowing* then I am sure that you command people around.
Frankly, as much as I've seen you disagree with people on the boards I have yet to see your use such an awful tone towards them. What you do in real life I cannae comment on.
Maybe I think YOURE clearly not!
I myself had a few problems between mates you get more money that me scab - but this was mainly due to jealousy (or as you are always preaching "why should they get it and not us" syndrome!)
I am not disputing your view that they are snobs, but in my school people made it clear that they were being given £30 a week to spend on shopping and drinking, think how annoying that is to the 'snobs' who work hard and get nothing.
I do not feel that the tecaher assessed monetry contribution was a bad idea and itr certainly eliminates improper usage.
I think i may have found your 'snob' comment quite offensive, if it was aimed at people who have more money as the word is used wrongly. If you do have probs with these people (which really you shouldnt have as the school should kee it confidential, it goes into your account and i would hope you were not bragging about it (else really it would be expected to receive one or two jealous comments!) then why should they know?
I know thats not the point, but fiend may have got the impression that you meant those who were not on EMA and you dont know whether she a) had it at school and thought you meant her b) if you had offended her in any other way.
You did not help the argument but shouting abuse and by avoiding an answer, if you could explain your point of view without arguing and being arrogant you may avoid the slagging off match!
All cheer up as i am in a good mood
I bow to you, though I would have been happy if he'd just answered the question.
No one should be offended by the snob comment, as surely no one strives to be one.
There are people in my school who would be classed as snobs who are annoyed that they don't get the EMA!
i earn £30 in about 5 hours work, working full time
sorta pales how dire the ema is for wanting to keep people on
It does mean, however, that there's a number of people turning up to lessons they don't particularly want to be in so their attendance is high enough to get the EMA - and when people are sitting through a lesson they don't want to be in, they tend to disrupt the class and make it tougher for the people that do want to be there. I dunno if that's the case across the board, but it certainly seems to be true of a few of my classes since the college introduced EMA.
Like others have said, it's great in theory but not in practice, not at the moment anyway.
you forogt to mention it helps with kids who do far too many hours in part time work on top of college which ruins their education
Plenty of people do that and don't get EMA to help. It comes down to time management and prioritising, which is surely a skill that should be developed?
If people were doing too many hours in part time work, thus ruining their education in order to buy things like books for their A-levels or to pay for transport to school/college then fair enough, they should get the help.
But as has already been established, the vast majority of students spend the £30 on a new pair of jeans, or a couple of CDs, or whatever else they fancy. If I want an extra £30 a week to spend on luxuries, I have to decide if I can give up the study time to work the extra hours.
I see your point, but I don't think it applies in the vast majority of cases because the money isn't spent as it's intended to be.
it never is.... but i fail to see any facts that say most students who get it piss it away
i worked when at college, but thankfully sauce of EMA it meant i didnt have to work an extra 8-10 hours a week on top of my exisiting hours, which owuld have been of detriment to their education, and people do need a social life todevelop socal skils you know, very few people are hermits at 17, and they work, and get extra help in form of ema, and it does help their education
The vast majority of people who work enough hours to harm their education do it because they choose to, not because they need to, and that's my point. Why should some people get given extra money to spend on a Saturday night when others have to work extra hours and possibly do harm to their education for the same thing?
Most colleges and sixth forms would recommend you do, at most, 10 or 12 hours a week in part time work (correct me if I'm wrong). Minimum wage for a sixteen year old (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is about £3 an hour. So working 10 hours a week at minimum wage would get that £30 without having much impact at all on college work.
I know people who choose not to work part-time because they can use the EMA alongside money from their parents to pay for new clothes, and going out, or whatever, so how does that work? You have to admit, working part-time while you're at college has more benefits than a bit of extra money.
I'm losing track of my point now. Basically, like I say, I think it's great in theory but it's far too easy for people to take advantage of it.
yes,because my entire family believes that i won't work get my highers, so i stayed on to spite them.
ur completly avoiding the point...
wen i was at colege ema meant i didnt have to work as many hours part time, since under 18s get no minumum wage and i would of had to work an EXTRA 10 hours a week to get the £30 ema provides on top of the 10-15 hours i normally worked
anything more than 15 hours a week will degrade someones education at college
thats the point of EMA
Those who work at sixth form are less likely to rack up thousand of pounds debt with a student loan as they know the value of money.
I have learned the hard way how many other students learn this way, learn that when you get to 18 its your job to look after yourself.
Like a said a receipt system/or monitoring sending is a better idea.
you appreciate it more, i have a hearing problem requiring hearing aids and get less support than someone on EMA so what i want to better myself i want an education, i will work to get me through it, i dont want handouts to make me succeed i recognise that i need to work hard and it is only for 4 years i will keep working a job that i hate (i was signed off with stress recently - i get bullied, i have joined a union to get me through a weekend job!) i truly detest this job, YET i need it.
I have used my brains have weighed up the pros and cons, nd feel that to be what i want to be i need to stick it out.
I have learned that myself, i dont need handouts to 'encourage' me I have that motivation myself! Mt work does not affect my studies (yes it affects my voluntary work, my social life and my health) however like i said it all goes on tuition fees and it does piss me off, but i know that i am doing the best i can yto succeed!
If a person is able to prioritise 1)education 2)job/work 3)health 4)family 5)social life/booze/fun then i see no problem!
If you spend less than 5 hours a week working the rest going out every other night and find that you have no time for your homework then its your own fault you need to decide if you are mature enough to be doing that course. If you spend to much time socialising and say that a job is affecting your studies then tough! i would NEVER EVER let a night of drinking get in the way of my education, i think in some cases EMA encourages nights out - resulting in lack of time to do anything else!
I feel that those who truly need to the EMA a receipt/reimbursement attitude is better, as those who do not need the money will spend it on crap!
again you miss the point of why it helped me really since i was working 10-15 hours on top of 20+ hours week of scheduled college time and i had to do coursework/revision as well, so it isnt laziness but possibly good points yourself nonetheless about the reciept system but the qeustion of the bureaucracy of it springs to mind
and i go to uni and well no matter what the people who screw things up seem to do it by purpose from personal experience
im doing relatively okay at uni i manage to make do on loan and academic bursary