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Hey nckdn
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Are you the same nckdn that posts on Stormfront?
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I hope you're not into that white pride crap nckdn...If you are I think you have serious problems in the head and I hope you can somehow rehabilitate and become a tolerant individual.
No I'm not.
MrG please DO tell. I've deleted it and can't remember. My only PMs (3 or 4) have been pleas not to presume that I hold views I think are abhorrent and have never expressed. If Mrg has something different I'll be surprised.
I've been accused of being racist/fascist and had a lot of neo-nazi/seperatist stuff thrown at me because I accept the CRE line on the English being an ethnic group,
http://www.cre.gov.uk/legaladv/cases_cold.html
have minority ethnic friends that are more representative than BlackArab's or Blagsta's,
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=459 have a view of Britain's population problem in line with the Green Party,
http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.greenspop.html
believe scientists andacademics rather than laymen who offer no alternative evidence. That's the type of evidence Blagsta, Kermit and Fiend_85, and immoderate moderators JimV and Mazza, think is sufficient to label a man as racist/fascist, and justify allusions to nazis and genocide.
Why should I have to explain myself to you narrow minded bigots? I want you guys to correct me when I'm wrong and debate me when it's interesting. I don't want to be pursued all over the board and repeatedly asked questions that I've already answered. I'll expess my views, you don't need to imagine what they are. That goes particularly for guys like Kermit with sick imaginations.
Do me a favour and let this will be my last post on this thread.
And your topics of conversation seem to be subjects that the stormtroopers seem rather partial to.....
You can't be too surprised that people are seeing a possible link, like!
And even if he is involved in Stormfront (I assume it's a racist site?)... well it's his (or her) opinions and point of view and politics... shouldn't we respect that?
We don't have to respect it, just give him space to voice his views.
Sadly like many racists there is the denial and the hidden messages, but although you can change the image the substance remains the same.
Sure he's allowed to express his filth, and I'd defend his right to do so, but that doesn't mean that a racist's viewpoint should be respected, or that a racist should be respected, just because he holds that viewpoint.
Respect is a privilege not a right; it is earned not given.
no we should tolerate it, but we dont have to respect or like it
the south park episode with mr garrison trying to get sacked says it all
Well then maybe that's no worse than not respecting a homosexual or a black person...
Hi Blagsta, you've accused me of starting out with a 'racist' mindset and believing that all societies problems are caused by immigration and race. I've never said that, so why keep accusing me of it? I think immigration and race are about immigration and race, you think they're about economics and class - it's you that starts out with an ideology which influences your judgement. Lately I've posted twice to clarify my views and I apologised for the stupid way I've expressed them and raised some issues. In response you've twice accused me of backtracking. I'm not backtracking Blagsta, as far as I'm aware my posts have been factually correct, and where I've posted links to support my views, you haven't produced any evidence to make me change my mind.
And that Stormfront website is sick.
It's the difference between tolerance and respect...
I always thought tolerence was the practice of recognising and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
tolerating something to me is being able to bear with something, doesn't mean you have to like or respect it.
why should you respect everyone else's beliefs? you telling me you respect the beliefs of racists or neo-nazis? (not that i am calling nckdn a nazi beofre anyone jumps on me)
Who me? I'll listen to them without hurling abuse aye... You go out to the world of work and you'll always meet people with conflicting views... But hurling abuse and insulting people is in no way going to make changes to the other person, or wider society.
MrG I have no respect for you because you are a liar. You say my PM to you gives you cause to think I might post on a White Nationalist site. I remember now that you sent me a PM asking if I'm from Yorkshire and I replied that I live in Yorkshire and have lived in other places around the country. That was all I said in my PM, so you had absolutely no reason to think that because I have lived in Manchester or Liverpool I am a White Nationalist! I think you simply wanted to join in when Blagsta was having a go at me. Maybe you're easily lead or something. Certainly in your second post you seemed to change your tune, only to change it back after somebody else chipped in. Are you a bit like the guy in The Fast Show who can't think for himself? Everything I post on this board might be wrong, if so the thing to do is correct me, but please don't lie to all the other board users about what I say in a PM, I think that's pretty shitty behaviour. I think you should explain yourself and if you dispute that my PM was as innocent as I'm claiming I shall ask the Mods to confirm what was in the PM.
the reason i changed my tune, because at the time it was what was reasonable, you do know people can change their minds
as for asking the mods, lets get them to pull up everyone of your 123 posts and see how many of them are racist trifle
the PM gave me reason to believe there was a reasonable link, what i did with that knowledge was my business, and it doesnt matter what the mods do with the PM's cause it still entitles me to my own opinions
if proven that i have conclusively lied about what was in the PM then i will stand next to you while people throw rocks, otherwise i'll get off your high horse and start throwing them again
first of all you cant remember what the PM says because you have deleted it, and now you know exactly what it said, and of that im not disputing, so point out where i have lied
your problem is the connotation i have taken from the PM, not the potential dispute of its contents you twit
quote me where i said you were a stormfronter, word for word, please do
and as for reporting my posts?
im gonna go through every single one of yours if you so wish, i think much of the racist comment in one of your posts alone is repulsive, you are just reporting my posts cause you dont like me and you are lashing out
add to the fact theres nothing indecent in either posts that i would say would warrant reporting to the mods
not what i asked, i may listen and tolerate it, but do you respect their opinions or do you just put up with it as i do? cos if not then you're being a tad hypocritical.