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BillieTheBot
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13249236,00.html
I've just watched some of the footage on TV today. You can hear quite clearly the Marine in question saying "he's not dead" and then saying "he's dead now".
At no point does he say "he's still armed" or anything similar.
The marine in question was detained by his colleagues and could be charged with murder.
I've just watched some of the footage on TV today. You can hear quite clearly the Marine in question saying "he's not dead" and then saying "he's dead now".
At no point does he say "he's still armed" or anything similar.
The marine in question was detained by his colleagues and could be charged with murder.
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(And this would be a good time to remind people that, while I don't wish any ill to the the Iraqis, I don't believe in 'saving' them from their 'evil' regime, either. It's for them to choose what they will tolerate, without being bombed to salvation. If it's right to interfere now, why not 30 years ago?)
I haven't seen the full video yet but all reports indicate that the footage is genuine and the murder took place.
And if that is the case, this is yet another war crime caught on camera. You have to wonder how many hundreds, if not thousands of similar cold blooded murders have taken place away from the cameras. :mad:
The only surprise is that the soldier didn't shout "Oh dude!" or "Awesome!" as he blew the old injured man's brains out (as they have been recorded saying when machine-gunning people or blowing them up).
And then the fucking cunts wonder why people despise them... :mad: :mad: :mad:
There is a slim chance that the guy was acting in self defence. But knowing the American military's past history on shooting first and asking questions/engaging brain cells later it wouldn't surprise me.
I can see it now "YOU have not been in combat... you have no right to question their actions... you don't know how it is for them... etc etc"
Ain't that right?
What excuse can you come up with for this guy's actions?
Friendly fire?
Being under pressure?
Being trigger happy?
American troops are well known for friendly fire incidents
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/06/nirq06.xml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2901515.stm
So is it possible one of them cracked and killed an unarmed man in cold blood?
Course not :rolleyes:
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder! Your inside must be hollow
How does it feel to take the life of another
Murderer! Blood upon your shoulder
Kill me today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder! Your inside must be hollow
How does it feel to take a life
Lord, you can hide from man but not your conscience
Unu eat the bread of sorrow, drink the wine of violence
Allow yourself to be conquered by the serpent
Why you disobey the first commandment
Walk through the valley I fear no pestilence
God is my witness and He is my evidence
Lift up mine eyes from whence cometh help
Them could-a never escape this ya judgement
Murderer! Blood is, blood upon your shoulder
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder! Your inside must be hollow
How does it feel to take a life
I tell unu, all man are created equal
But behind the trigger it's a different sequel
Some are murdering people just to collect medals
Stop commit dirty acts fi the high official
You could-a wash your hand 'til you can't wash no more
It is like an epidemic and you can't find no cure
Upper class you could-a rich, middle class whether you're poor
Only the righteous won't feel insecure
Have you ever think 'bout your skill getting bored
Murderer! Blood upon your shoulder
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder! Your inside must be hollow
How does it feel to take a life
Lord… Drink sulphur bitters won't be bitter like your end
Only God can help you, no family, no friend
Don't let the curse be upon your children's children
Abednigo, Shadreck, Meshek, Daniel in a the den
Jonah in the whale's belly, but he never condemn
Job with the leprosy, must still reach heaven
He will do for you and everything has done for them
Murderer! Blood upon your shoulder
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder! Your inside must be hollow
How does it feel to take a life
Once more, you hide from man but not your conscience
Unu eat the bread of sorrow, drink the wine of violence
Allow yourself to be conquered by the serpent
What make you disobey the first commandment
Walk through the valley I fear no pestilence
God a fi me witness and He want an evidence
Lift up mine eyes from whence cometh help
Them could-a never escape this ya judgement
Murderer! Blood upon your shoulder
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder! Your inside must be hollow
How does it feel to take a life
I tell you, all men are created equal
But behind the trigger it's a different sequel
Some are murder people just collect medals
Stop commit dirty acts fi the high official
You could-a wash your hand 'til you can't wash no more
It is like an epidemic and you can't find no cure…
:rolleyes:
So easy to dismiss that these ILLEGAL COMBATANTS are sawing off the heads of civilian hostages, while they are still alive...
So easy to dismiss the female in her mid 50's who was found yesterday disemboweled, likely while still alive...
So easy to dismiss the two Marines who had been killed the previous day, in the adjacent building, by another "insurgent" who had been feigning death...
So easy to dismiss the TEN Marines who were killed by a sham surrender on the Blitzkreig To Baghdad... which happened to be one of the worst days of my life, because I was not there with them, and the cherries may have lost their lives simply because they hesitated...
So easy to dismiss that this very Marine had been shot in the face, the day before, while clearing another building http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20041115/ts_nm/iraq_marine_shooting_dc
These "insurgents" are ILLEGAL COMBATANTS, and by the rules of war, may be summarily executed upon discovery.
Beyond the "legality" of the issue, the fact remains that these terrorists have dictated the Rules Of Engagements by their targeting civilian non-combatants, by their sham surrenders, by their booby-trapping dead bodies (including civilian...).
These Marines are NOT handing out parking tickets, or talking to shop lifters: they are engaging terrorists who BY THEIR OWN BARBARITY have taken themselves outside the parameters of the civilized world.
How telling that you weap for the lawless, illegal combatants, and cry "murder" before you even have more than a cursory and out-of-context view of what is ongoing.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-11-15-iraq_x.htm
If you mourn so deeply for the animals? Then pick up a rifle, and join the fight against the civilized world, which has moved to Mosul... Falluja will be completely contained by the time you discover the testicular requisites to stand in THAT Marine's boots, and do HIS job... but... you may defend them you so mournfully weep for, until they use YOU as a human sacrifice to their cause.
Tell me something Thanatos: before this rather old, injured and unarmed man was shot in the head in cold blood, did he confess to having done all of the above? Or any or the above for that matter?
Is it that US soldiers have acquired telephatic powers, and can tell from looking at a man what he has been up to days before, perhaps?
And even if that was the case, what the flying fuck makes you believe US soldiers have the right to become judge, jury and executioner?
Because even your Commander-in-Chief and every US military officer from the top down are the first ones to say that such actions are unnaceptable, illegal or wrong.
Are you so fucking deluded now that you ignore your (ex)bosses orders and rules of engagement regarding who and when and how to shoot people?
I fucking dread to think what you and others might have got up to in Vietnam, if you hold your own country's own rules in such contempt. :rolleyes:
ETA: by the way sunshine... America waged an illegal war. YOU are the unlawful combatants and foreign fighters.
Never been on a battlefield, have you?
Still supporting the disemboweling of civilian women, and the sawing off of heads - while still alive - done by your heroes?
You fucktard he isn't doing that and you know it. Both sides are in the wrong though, the yanks are hardly innocent either.
it was hardly a heavy fire mistake was it? Don't talk rubbish, you're either mentally disabled to disgustingly and deliberatly ignoring the facts. IRRESPECTIVE of ANYTHING done by terror groups in Iraq, there is NO excuse for a solider to shoot an unarmed injured individual KNOWING that they were unarmed and injured.
There was a small story in the New York Times and the Washington Post, but only in the later pages.
In terms of TV its virtually not been mentioned at all.
And sure enough...
Like clockwork, Thanatos. Like clockwork.
Your pathetic attempts at winding up merit no answer. It is clear for all to see whether I support "the disembowelling of civilian women, and the sawing off of heads - while still alive" or not.
You're just making an even bigger fool of yourself.
Is this the best you can do?
Just what would it take for you condemn the actions of a US soldier? The setting of a baby alight? The rape and murder of an Iraqi woman? The execution of 100 villagers?
Somehow I suspect you would find justification for the above (hypothetical) scenarios. Somehow you would try to claim soldiers were under pressure, or that those people deserved it and were terrorists in the making. Or that we haven't been in battle and thus we cannot judge their actions because we "don't understand".
Ain't that right Thanatos?
Do you know the meaning of the word 'honor'?
You've not heard that cheesy line before? It's like honour doesn't exist in the states, because no-one puts 'u' or 'you' in it. No-one puts themselves into honour.
have a good day, off to do a degree.
What? Sorry I have no idea what you're trying to say there.
Just that because the american's miss the 'u' out of honour, it's an indication that they fail to realise that honour comes from what you do. Not what anyone else does.
So quick to judge and condemn what you have never experienced, and have not the requisites to do, yourself. But that hypocrisy is the MO in this place, isn't it?
Your "American" must be rather insular... I knew about it two days ago, and was being covered extensively on TV the day before you posted that... even got a large blurb on the "Today Show" on Tuesday morning. :rolleyes:
ANY stupidity to forward your prejudice, right?
And if what Globe has said is true, then I have a lot of sympathy with the situation of the Marine. It's a common tactic to feign death in order to kill opponents, it always has been (some of you should read some Sven Hassel books) and really soldiers have to look after themselves first. Shoot first, ask later, it's what sometimes has to be done.
It is a warzone, after all.
That would be the actions of your terrorist heroes... not the US Soldiers/Marines who hunt them down...
THAT is the issue, all in itself.
Those who would condemn what they cannot comprehend? Should step up and fill the boots of the one they condemn...
Unlike quite a few here I have absolutely nothing against you. I cant see what I said had any prejudice in it at all.
I was simply repeating what I was told by someone a few days ago. I even said "as far as they had seen" thus pointing out it wasnt a FACT.
You have absolutely no idea what ties I have to the US and how I feel to Americans in general. You accuse others of being rash to judge, I think you are guilty of it in just the same way.
What I observe the the anti-US bias rampant in this place, and the fact that my name usually gets drug into issues I had not yet posted to, with inflamatory insults as my invitation.
And?
I had been discussing this issue LONG beore it surfaced here... almost from the moment it happened...
To suggest that the US is "ignorant" and "kept in the dark" concerning what is ongoing? Is an empty prejudice forwarded HERE...
So I'm guessing you're just going to blame me for others views on this board then?