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Drug users are lowlifes

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
I know people that smoke weed, take the odd bit of base or a few pills and they are nice people. They don't rob people, they ain't murdered anyone & their not big time pushers or pusher at all; yet people seem to think their just dodgy people who you wouldn't want to assocate with and if you do then that means your into drugs yourself. Why do people think like this?

It might not be the same for you but a lot of people I know seem to think this. Why?
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    cos of endless misinformation.
    cos of agendas by the brewers and the distillers and the drug companies.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    its because people always think the worst with something they dont know :/
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    People have a fear of the unknown and those anti-drug people don't know what drugs are like, they hear and assume the worst and that's it.

    Stupid, misinformed people. But you can't really blame people with being fed all the shit from the government about this and that, your first pill will kill you, your first toke of ajoint and you'll turn into a raving crackhead deseprate for their next drug hit and then before you know it onto heroin and out on the street with a teenage pregenant girlfriend hooked on crack cocaine and heroin.

    Yea, the world's all full of shit. :rolleyes:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think people think like this as drugs do seriously ruin some peoples lives, and that is what the press, media, and goverment concentrate on.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And they can, and do ruin people's lives, there really isnt much doubt about that.

    The problem is that balanced reporting doesnt sell newspapers, there has to be an edge to it, whats the point otherwise.

    "Man took MDMA, felt good and open to his friends"

    Isnt as good as;

    "English child rose girl struck down by evil killer drug pusher"

    There is no objective journalism except the stock results, and even they are always out of date.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i'm a much nicer person now i'm drug free


    (i know that mught be hard to believe)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by xmizzcattyx
    i'm a much nicer person now i'm drug free


    me too.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    People are scared of things they don't understand, it's as simple as that! :nervous:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i'm a much nicer person now i'm drug free

    i feel much better and more able to make rational decisions, my brain and moods are not erratic and i feel less anxious, although it still happens sometimes.

    I do not miss ecstasy, or weed.

    although i say im drug free, i do take alcohol and codeine ocasionally (NOT TOGETHER), because a bottle of codeine at the weekends on quiet Friday and Sunday nights is nice for me:)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Martin, just because you've moved from two illegal drugs to one legal and one semi legal doesnt really mean you're 'drug free'.

    Especially given that you now consume two drugs which are physically addictive.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Martin_Bashir
    i feel less anxious, although it still happens sometimes.

    yea i used to get panic attacks more than once a day when i was taking stuff a lot. i thought i was tking the stuff to get rid of the anxiety but when i stopped i realised it had been causing it
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some drug users aren't scum. But some are. The ones that
    Import the stuff
    Steal for the stuff
    Kill for the stuff

    Are scum.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    Some drug users aren't scum. But some are. The ones that
    Import the stuff
    Steal for the stuff
    Kill for the stuff

    Are scum.

    I really fear for you becoming the next wave of policing.

    Yes, some drug users steal, but thats far more to do with the law than it is to do with the drug. The legal situation forces the price far above the cost price, thus making it difficult to maintain a habit.

    Drug users killing for the drug are stupidly rare.

    Importers are just like any other business people really, the market dictates, you cant fight economics.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    Import the stuff

    an awful lot of drug smugglers are just like 'mr nice' believe it or not.
    they have nice homes and nice families and wouldn't dream of behaving in any kind of criminal manner ...
    as for the U.K ...we have a long and great history of smuggling.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its just business, they dont have any interest in violence or killing its too much hassle and can disrupt trade.

    Yes most of them will get very nasty if need be, but they dont do it in a routine way like some street dealers do.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There's a market for drugs and as long as people want something there'll be someone there to get it for them.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Shogun
    There's a market for drugs and as long as people want something there'll be someone there to get it for them.
    and most of the people who get it ...drive very nice motors ...live in very nice areas ...kids are very well educated etc ...have big bank accounts and live ...in the same areas as judges ...police chiefs ...laywers ...directors ...politicians.
    these ...are the people who invest large millions into the second biggest bizz on the planet and of course ...reap the benefits.
    the smaller guys ...people like you and me who take a chance ...are regarded as scum.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Martin, just because you've moved from two illegal drugs to one legal and one semi legal doesnt really mean you're 'drug free'.

    no indeed not, in hindsight i should have made that clear (i've just read the post again and its not coming across entirely as i intended).

    I have now stopped taking Codeine, and tbh i cant recommend it as a recreational drug, as it has too many complications even for a temporary distraction.

    check out 'Downers' for an account of my foreay into the real of cough medicine :D:lol:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Martin_Bashir
    no indeed not, in hindsight i should have made that clear (i've just read the post again and its not coming across entirely as i intended).

    I have now stopped taking Codeine, and tbh i cant recommend it as a recreational drug, as it has too many complications even for a temporary distraction.

    check out 'Downers' for an account of my foreay into the real of cough medicine :D:lol:
    martin ...you do have a problem.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    martin ...you do have a problem.

    how so? im intrigued:confused:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Martin_Bashir
    how so? im intrigued:confused:
    in the world of addiction problems and drug and drink problems that aren't always addiction problems ...there are individuals who talk about problems with substances but ...don't relate to having a problem.there are guys who drink every night on the way home from work but have no problems with the stuff.
    meaning ...it isn't having any detrimental effect on them or those around them ...just a way of life.
    if that way of life is showing itself to be having adverse effects on the user ...or those around them ...financialy emotionaly etc ...then it's a problem.
    your showing signs of problems.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ok i can see the reasoning here, but im having trouble in seeing quite how this is applicable to me based on either my use of codeine or my desire not to get drunk.

    When i first started taking codeine, it was because it was fun and i derrived pleasure from it. That pleasure has now diminished to the point at which i do not wish to take it anymore.

    Ditto alcohol.

    have i missed or misinterpreted something:confused:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Drug users are lowlifes
    Originally posted by Felix Da Housecat
    I know people that smoke weed, take the odd bit of base or a few pills and they are nice people. They don't rob people, they ain't murdered anyone & their not big time pushers or pusher at all; yet people seem to think their just dodgy people who you wouldn't want to assocate with and if you do then that means your into drugs yourself. Why do people think like this?

    It might not be the same for you but a lot of people I know seem to think this. Why?

    People have a right to believe that, don't they?!

    Drugs still has a stigma in this society I guess. All narcotics should be legal though!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No, no they shouldnt.

    Would you like to say why freely available crack cocaine would be a good thing?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Would you like to say why freely available crack cocaine would be a good thing?

    or Ketamine? (yes i know its Class C, but you can be done for supply)

    or Methamphetamine?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ketamine doesnt come under the Misuse of Drugs Act, so it doesnt have a 'class' in those terms.

    Its prescribed under the Medicines Act of 1963 (isnt it? Dam I can never remember the dates) thus making supply without a licence a criminal offence.

    Carrying or using personal amounts of ketamine is completely legal.

    In fact it is really only the actually supplying thats the crime, so you could have 5kg and you probably couldnt get done for 'with intent'.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by bongbudda
    No, no they shouldnt.

    Would you like to say why freely available crack cocaine would be a good thing?

    Yes, yes they should.

    A person has the right to take what they desire.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes, well back in the real world we realise that sometimes people need to be protected from things that will do them harm.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why? It's that person's right to take something that harms them.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In fact it is really only the actually supplying thats the crime, so you could have 5kg and you probably couldnt get done for 'with intent'.

    yeah, i thought thats what i said :confused:

    i was under the impression that supply carried class c penalties (although im not sure i made this clear) or am i wrong im thinking this?

    i knew someone who paid for an executive class Honda @ 17, by selling on litres of Ketamine in liquid form.
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