New development could house the population of Birmingham

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Lets face it the South East is going to continue to grow, all this talk of the North redeveloping and such isnt going to compete and draw jobs up there. It may well create jobs up North, but wont take jobs from the South.


So, in my opinion three things should happen.

- Brown field sites need to be developed where ever possible, and if tax breaks need to be given then so be it.

- Abandoned or un-used houses in London and South East need to be used where ever possible. This should mean land lords given incentives to take council tenants. They shouldnt be forced but rent and security garenteed so its in their interest.

- Some farm land should be given over to houses. More and more farms are becoming totally un-profitable.

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Originally posted by bongbudda
Lets face it the South East is going to continue to grow, all this talk of the North redeveloping and such isnt going to compete and draw jobs up there. It may well create jobs up North, but wont take jobs from the South.


So, in my opinion three things should happen.

- Brown field sites need to be developed where ever possible, and if tax breaks need to be given then so be it.

- Abandoned or un-used houses in London and South East need to be used where ever possible. This should mean land lords given incentives to take council tenants. They shouldnt be forced but rent and security garenteed so its in their interest.

- Some farm land should be given over to houses. More and more farms are becoming totally un-profitable.

all good, the last one though, the way farming etc is subsidised etc etc is what ruins it, and well in the case of a world war, theyd be long distanc efood haulage, whic his why we started to mass produce 'chepa' food
theres more than enough brownfild sites, and they sohlud have tax breaks etc whilst green field need more control

and more normal housing not upper range housing

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Well certainly the CAP needs reform, but some farm land just isnt worth farming anymore, its too spaced out, its in the wrong places etc.

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Before building on greenfield, they should be building on brownfield sites.

And what's the money being that all these new homes will be Barratt "executive homes" which will do nothing to alleviate the cost of housing in the South East.

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Actually they cant really do that any more, at least not in London and most of the South East.

To get planning permission they have to have a set number of low cost housing or key worker homes.

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Bong, it's about 10%. If that.

There's plenty of brownfield land in London, that needs to be built on first.

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Oh certainly, and it is. The Isle of Dogs is a classic example of that.

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Build up not out, especially for low cost social housing. It sounds Stalinist and probably is but to avoid a crisis that will occur sooner than we think it has to be done now.

More apartments, fewer "cookoo clock" houses.

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Originally posted by Braineater
Build up not out, especially for low cost social housing. It sounds Stalinist and probably is but to avoid a crisis that will occur sooner than we think it has to be done now.

More apartments, fewer "cookoo clock" houses.

Yeah, because that worked last time :yeees:

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Why don't brits like going up?

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Yep, the high rise communities around London are shining beacons as to how good life can be.

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With a little architectual inginuity it can work again.

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Originally posted by Braineater
With a little arcitectual inginuity it can work again.

again? It didn't work in the first place.

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Originally posted by Braineater
With a little architectual inginuity it can work again.

You must be the only person who thinks it worked last time.

Oh, you and the dozy cunt at English Heritage who made them list the Byker Wall.

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It did "work" as in it solved the housing crisis.

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Originally posted by Braineater
It did "work" as in it solved the housing crisis.

But it didn't- it created ghettos very quickly, it destroyed whole communities. The flats idea was the worst thing to have ever happened, which is why they are all getting pulled down again.

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People create ghettos themselves through ASB and crime.

Give people a reason to appreciate their community and they might, just might, like living there. Brighten things up a little.

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Yes, but it put all those type of people in one place so they were out of the way.

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Affordable housing on brownfield sites is required. The country overall needs near 1million homes to sustain for the future. It looks likely these 600,000 will be in a 'Milton Keynes' type environment.

As long as some prat doesnt build on floodplains we should be OK!

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One million homes in the style of Milton Keynes, good god, we're all doomed!

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Originally posted by bongbudda
One million homes in the style of Milton Keynes, good god, we're all doomed!

Yep.

Those great big housing estates (from executive ranging to local/housing authority) are all pretty soulless.

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Milton Keynes is one of the foulest places in Britain.

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Originally posted by NaCN
soulless.

You mean "completely and unequivocally"

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no matter where they build them most will be expensive housing, im not saying build super cheap houses, just dont make them super luxury and completly huge


also more brownfield sites since they normally within cities, it could lower the amount of intercity commuters who i hate with a passion!

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Well, no, no builder in their right mind would build this many high value houses even if they were allowed. They just plain wouldnt sell, there isnt the market for it.

Most will be mid range 2 and 3 bedroom places.

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I don't think Milton Keynes is that bad..... entertainmentwise I find it great.

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Originally posted by Renzokuken
I don't think Milton Keynes is that bad..... entertainmentwise I find it great.

I'm truely very sorry.

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Originally posted by bongbudda
Milton Keynes is one of the foulest places in Britain.

Hear hear!

And their "football" team is shit.

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wimbeldon you say

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Originally posted by lukesh
Instead of building more property down the south east that is all ready exploding why not move the work up here, then the houses can also be moved up here. The north needs investment. So many of us are going down south. It needs to come to an end.

The government should make the north more attractive for us.

the people there should make it more attractve

and where is north? just above watford

/london humour