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And rainbow brite, yes he is older than me but I have known him for three years, been with him for nearly 9 months and everyone including my mother are now okay with it.
What happened to people just being people? I don't even know what some of these terms mean!:crazyeyes
Just made me laugh as they're german so if you don't know german you may not understand what has been said...anyways hehe I'm in a daft mood!
I am part of a goth site for my local area-I don't claim to be goth-I'm a rocker who wears what I like-not a young teen greebo or metaller etc but I do know a lot about the culture now and past. However all the friendly people on the site don't have a go at me as I don't claim to be goth! I do love the music and I attend a members only goth club night that tends to play 80s goth and more trad goth than ebm style. But according to my london pal (in the band antaia) london goth scene is more ebm than trad and the trad scene is dying!
The original point about them being like chavs-well yeh in a way I can agree with this point-I actually walked into my local shop (owned by goth pub people too) in work clothes and a bunch of minigoth metalheads laughed at me-lil knowing I was a major part of the adult goth scene they so long to be credible in! Our town (wolves) has always had alt kids hangin out-when I was a wee babby, when I was a teen and now as a miserable adult. They always congegrate-like chavs do in other parts of the town. Its always been the same!
I guess now it is even more popular to be into alt stuff and just with numetal scene being popular a couple of years ago, perhaps it is the turn of "nugoth" to be popular bringing with it all the hassles of a popular scene and followers of the crowd!
Great topic by the way was really interesting readin the replies to this!
with other groups you cant honestly tell with all the screaming
i aggre with this. most of my group grew up listening to nirvana and nin ect, and play some kind of instrament. we grew up with the reminance of the original gothic movement, yet none of us blatenly call ourselves "goths" as a title. we are ourselves. i listened to things like the cure and joy division/ new order since i was tiny, it's part of my life.
one of my best friends has got involved with one of these girls and to be honest......it's awful, everyone else can see that she fake and slates everything he belives in and loves behind his back. she's a total fake and i hate what she's doing to him. he's gonna end up getting his heart broken.
unlike you, i don't speak fluent German.
and whoever put that picture of the south park goth piss take stole my thunder
you obviously cant read english either :P
and when people start saying "this isnt alt-emo its metal-emo" or something i know theyve lost plot as for them they seem ot care more for arguing than just enjoying what they like listening to
i wear hoodies and tshirts, mainly from gigs i go to and i like what i like, these days though i just dress plain, simply cause i wear what i find comfy and that doesnt look too bad, so that means jeans and tshirt
ive realised from experience and age, being 19. no matter what, that 99.99% of teenagers just want to belong to something rebellious, and well it lands up just being conformist
at school i was just me and wore whatever i found in me wardrobe
Yes
Nah the fake pretendy ones do, but then they're not goths are they :crazyeyes Hmm.
Its all very annoying is this. Attitudes and the like. Can't understand it meself.
Lol have to agree with you on that-I can't sing along either to that sort of screaming-not that I ca sing anyway!
why is it that all people not into dance music call it techno? you get shite music in every genre but just cos it ain't to your taste doesn't mean it's crap :rolleyes:
i've just always found it amusing how in the alternative scene people all wear the same sort of clothes and all rebel against the same things and all have the same opinions on something but can't say why.
e.g. that capitalism is shit (when they're wearing huge amounts of expensive shit from places like hot topic and wearing £150 new rock boots).
looking back about 5-6 years ago i was your stereotypical angsty nu-metal kid, not that i did it on purpose, just happens my tastes meant i looked and liked what your avaerage mini-mosher used to like.
Because people grow out of phases. I can honestly say I've never seen an adult (and by adult, we're not talking about, hey, I'm 18 I'm an adult, more like a mature, grown up adult like person) who is "goth" or anything of the such. If you're 30 and still dressing like a goth, then I guess maybe it wasn't a phase... and maybe some professional help would be of order.
Had a good chuckle at that one.
I've been thinking on this and i'm afraid i can't think of one person round here that seems like a true goth used to be. The kids i know who go round claiming they are goths and walking round all miserable and mean are the kids who are geeky shy kids who are obviously desperate to fit in with a group and they find it easier to fit in with a gothic type group.
I'm not saying it's wrong to be like this, fuck, we've all tried to fit in somewhere at some point, i'm just saying i feel a little sorry for the kids that feel they have to typecast themselves this way as half of them don't understand the meaning of being a goth.
80's culture means more to the people who experienced it at the time rather than the 14yr olds who are getting it back round the 2nd time.
I mean, personally I don't give a shit if people call me a goth... all I care is that I know who I am and what I like. I don't buy my 'goth attire' from Hot Topic or Black Rose in Camden, I find styles I like from wherever I can and wear them myself. I personally can't stand the attitude of the 'goth' kids, the stereotyping and labelling, but it is part of life now.
There is a definite line between romantic 80's goth and todays 'goth'. It's just that it's now more of a fashion that it was the first time round...
Ilora x
Ilora-alot of my friends at the goth club actually make their own clothes or get them made to measure-tis expensive but they don't do the omen tops and hot topic clothes like the younger goth wannabees. My mates who make their clothes are students who can't afford stuff anyway! They are very talented and their clothes are so individual and not mass goth marketed!
I do wear omen slogan vests with jeans though as they are quite funky! Then again I'm just a rocker, not a goth!
I see alot of the kids at the rock club who are wearing topshop chic goth clothes its quite amusing as I know they are in topshop gear as I often go in there myself-yet they pretend to be all original!
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Good choice of words. Nothing seems to be heart felt anymore. Just a trend. (not that I was actually alive for it, but still...)
I don't know about anyone else, but I can't understand a word they say.
Round us I wouldn't say we have any propa goths, just kids who dress in black who like to think they are and give the older people something to stare at, and not many of them at that.
*is clever*
I'm also pro-monarchy. I think big castles/kings/horse-drawn carriages are gothic, therefore monarchy is a good thing. (But leave that issue for the politics board).
Ilora x
Ilora x