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Police officers banned from joining the BNP
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3930175.stm
I personally think it's the right thing to do. Clearly a man who supports and becomes a member of a racist party that does not believe in race equality cannot hold a position of law enforcement.
Anyone disagrees?
I personally think it's the right thing to do. Clearly a man who supports and becomes a member of a racist party that does not believe in race equality cannot hold a position of law enforcement.
Anyone disagrees?
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What a sad world we live in
However I think instant dismissal is over the top. I'd rather the officers in question interviewed in order to find out what their views are, using lie detectors if necessary.
You have to bear in mind that the BNP has become popular by dropping (publicly) it's racist image.
A party devoted to law and order is a very attractive one to a police officer or member of the public sick of crime. This is something that needs to be addressed
and also with the published competencies required to be a Police
Officer.
As much as I dislike them, the BNP are a legitimate politcal party. (lets not bother throwing about terms like racist, because they are technically a party)
So, therefore to ban police from joining a legitimate party is VERY suspect.
Their online Manifesto is still anti non-whites and the documentry wouldn't have helped there image.
I could understand a copper wanting their hands to be less tied when it comes to certain crimes but parties like the BNP would turn us into a Police state and surely not even the police want that. They also want the death penalty brought back as well as Corporal punishment.
"We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed." from bnp website
Do we want the police to have strong political views though?
Surely they should be neutral?
So we're going to vet all police on the basis of them having no views on anything?!
People have the right to belong to ANY legitimate political party they want to. We do live in some sort of democracy.
would that not come into direct conflict with their duties?
But thats not quite the point, a legitimate political party is having restrictions put on them just because of their message. This is a very suspect move.
In the same way as you would expect a registered sex child offender to be banned from getting a job as a school teacher, you can expect that 'registered' racists (and regardless of what they might say, the BNP is a profoundly racist party- amongst other things) should not be allowed to hold such positions of power such as police officers, where they'd be expected to deal with members of the community of all races, and furthermore enforce legislation that goes against what they themselves believe in.
exactly. From the policecouldyou website
Respect for race and diversity
Understands other people’s views and takes them into account. Treats people with dignity and respect at all times no matter what their background, status, circumstances or appearance. Remember diversity is not just about race and gender. Age, sexual orientation, life styles are all relevant.
then just look at
http://www.bnp.org.uk/faq.html#racist
there is your conflict.
You may not like their views, but they have just as much right as anyone else to express them.
If policemen/women are allowing their views to influence how they enforce the law, then thats totally different.
The Green Party are pro-legalisation of some drug use, should their members not be allowed to enforce drug law?
You'll bitch and moan about errosion of rights when its someone you agree with, but when its not then, well fuck them they dont deserve rights anyway.
like members of the bnp care about peoples rights though
That really doesnt have much to do with it though does it.
Do you think banning them from joining the BNP is going to stop them being racist? Of course not.
If an officer is racist in his enforcement of the law then of course he/she should be delt with.
What I am saying is that people should have the right to support whatever legal party they want.
I'd think it will entrench their ideas even further, that the asians/blacks can say what they want but the whites can not.
Either you make it so public sevants cannot be a member of ANY political party, or you allow them to become members of the parties they choose.
If that copper was COnservative it would be a grave conflict of interests because his employers are a Labour government, if that copper was a Communist it'd be a grave confl;ict of interest because he wouldn't protect his rich constiutuents in thed event of a "class war".
Hypocrisy of the highest order. Yet again.
And more fuel to the BNP fire. Hell, I might even vote for them just to teach the smug pricks who run this country a lesson in free speech.
I'm not.
People on here will only see the merits of free speech when it is THEM who the government come knocking for, and when it is THEIR BELIEFS that are seen as evil and disgusting.
It's called being a professional.
As always, this is just plain stupid. Don't let them join the BNP and they won't be racist? Let us know when you are back in the real world.
So I'm stupid because I disagree with you.
Someone who is dumb enough to follow the BNP is incapable of being professional and putting those views to one side, in my opinion.
I'm not the only one who agrees with this move, so why just tell me I'm stupid and not in the real world?
I've thought about this a bit more, and although on first hearing it, I thought it was good, I can see the limitations.
How do you actually "be a member of a party" anyway? Who you vote for is confidential, no-one can bar you from jobs because of that.
by being a paid up member of the party surely