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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    is it so wrong to live a life hand in hand with nature?

    whats so wrong with thewir culture, or is it cause they get in the way of knocking down the forests to build cattle ranches for mcdonalds
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
    being proud of your countries overall system and values, and being a unquestioning loyal servant to your government are a completly different, as in so being ina democracy it is our job to question our rulers decisions

    Yes yes I heard this million times but as I say it is just a theory. In practice I see how easily people change their opinions from white to black because a government or their favourite political party convince them that things that was bad yesterday are good today. Not patriots don’t buy such tricks. You know, I lived in four countries and I saw the same picture everywhere- people forgives their leaders for any crap if they use patriotic rhetoric.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    as kermit once said

    the masses are asses





    there no such thing a perfect way to run a country, whether leaving it to indiviudals and organisation, down to facist dictatorships or democracies

    most people really only care whether they have access to services and have food on table and jobs, even if their neighbours dont
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    Western civilisation is not ‘one of the best’, it is THE BEST. It will dominate in the world, in all countries and continents, in its dustiest corners sooner or later. Human beings are designed by God for Western Civilisation.
    I also think patriotism is a bad thing. It sounds nice in theory but in practice patriots are easy targets for governments to manipulate. They are always ready to pay any tremendous taxes, obey any absurd laws, be driven to any stupid war- everything for the country’s sake of course. ‘Selfish bastards’ who wouldn’t give a damn for their country are real headache for ruling elites.

    Hang on, I thought you were an anarchist? :confused::confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There are many people who would readily denounce this countries tollerance levels let alone have pride in it.

    ooooo… tolerance. I’m an Intolerant bigot, as the Liberals would call me. I believe in right and wrong.

    Yes, I am back, and probably much to the dismay of the Liberal Lunatics on this site. I’ve been away for a while, vacationing etc.
    Sure, admire them in a museum.

    The Matadore! I can’t believe how bigoted and intolerant that is of you to say that! These people just love nature… and want to be left alone.

    Oh wow… you realize how sickening that sounds to have me say that? Bah. Man, pretending to be a Liberal sure is painful.
    whats so wrong with thewir culture, or is it cause they get in the way of knocking down the forests to build cattle ranches for mcdonalds

    Don’t get me wrong; I think their culture is amazingly fascinating. But yet, I’d much rather convert them to Christianity. Being a primitive culture doesn’t bother me one bit… in fact, in many respects, sometimes I wish our culture was a bit more primitive. That way, America wouldn’t be the fattest nation on earth. People would actually need to work to survive!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Hang on, I thought you were an anarchist? :confused::confused:
    Scuse me but if I remember things correctly you never thought I am an anarchist.
    Anyway, it is interesting what anti-anarchic have you found in my post?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by The Matadore
    You regard stone age savages as the pinnacle of human civilization?

    Sure, I can have food brought to my house and warmth at the flick of a switch, but I doubt I'm any happier or a better person than some "savage" in Bongo Bongo Land.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And it wont be those "savages" incapable of getting on with their daily lives when the oil runs out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    Scuse me but if I remember things correctly you never thought I am an anarchist.
    Anyway, it is interesting what anti-anarchic have you found in my post?

    No, you claim to be an anarchist.
    What is not anarchist in your post? Your defense of liberal democracy, you weirdo.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Melchiah Yes, I am back

    Who are you? :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MoonRat
    These people have lived thousands of years without the need of technology, anti-biotics and medicine for if they get one tiny headache and fast food... gotta admire 'em.

    Hmmm.

    And they die by the time they are 32 because of the 'flu.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yep cause they dont get it there, so have no resistance, coincidentally they probably have cures for things like ebola though lol
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
    yep cause they dont get it there, so have no resistance, coincidentally they probably have cures for things like ebola though lol

    I wasn't quite meaning that, although that is true.

    If modern technology is so poo, start walking evferywhere and stop taking medicine.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    no there nothing wrong with modern culture, but theres nothing wromng with the way the ylive their lives
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
    no there nothing wrong with modern culture, but theres nothing wromng with the way the ylive their lives

    It's a backwards, joyless existence. You know where the highest rates of homicide in the world are? The amazonian tribes, because they knock the shit out of each other.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    No, you claim to be an anarchist.
    What is not anarchist in your post? Your defense of liberal democracy, you weirdo.
    Hah! Liberal democracy is not a part of Western Civilisation. It is its regress, betrayal, back drive. Both democracy and socialism ( that is ‘liberalism’ in modern meaning of the word that is opposite to classical liberalism as you know) are much older than Western civilisation.
    Western civilisation is individualism and capitalism, the idea of everybody’s sovereignty over their life and property, you weirdo.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You've got some fuckign weird ideas about history.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    Hah! Liberal democracy is not a part of Western Civilisation. It is its regress, betrayal, back drive. Both democracy and socialism ( that is ‘liberalism’ in modern meaning of the word that is opposite to classical liberalism as you know) are much older than Western civilisation.
    Western civilisation is individualism and capitalism, the idea of everybody’s sovereignty over their life and property, you weirdo.

    actually its a good mix of both times of extreme capilism, then periods of extreme socialism
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    You've got some fuckign weird ideas about history.

    Depends what you define as "history" and "Western civilisation".

    Some of the greatest thinkers have pro[posed that a benevolent dictatorship is the best way to run a country, and Marxism has only been around 100 years.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    "western" ideals are based on the concepts of liberal democracy.
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