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With no income tax..
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1) the economy would grow faster
2) people would have more to spend and save
3) you would have enough to put your children through university
4) you could afford basic healthcare
5) you could donate more to your favourite charity
Surely these are preferable to having government take money from every pay pack.
2) people would have more to spend and save
3) you would have enough to put your children through university
4) you could afford basic healthcare
5) you could donate more to your favourite charity
Surely these are preferable to having government take money from every pay pack.
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utter bollox.
rolly's rite: bollox
in fact lets do away with cops and courts and armies and everyfucking thing else.
A penny saved from taxation is a penny gained twice.
First explanation is simple- just try not to pay. You’ll have great fun…
But this is not enough. Why people don’t vote for a party which would abolish taxes?
Because of greed.
Everyone hopes their neighbour will pay more so they will get a lot at his expense.
All babbling about compassion, help to the poor, common good etc. is lie and bullshit. If this was truth they’d prefer not to pay taxes to have more money to help the poor and other stuff.
I beleive that the NHS has continuously improved; over recent years I've had many of my family members ill where they needed to go into hospital, and I was quite impressed.
What do people compare the NHS to when they say it's unfit to look after us? How it used to be? Because it has only ever improved, of course over recent years with increasing numbers of old people there has been a greater strain on the NHS to provide, and a few years ago waiting lists were a joke.
But I prefer having the NHS, rather than having a 'poor people' fallback health service, while all high earning middle class people and upper class people get private healthcare.
Ask yourself where we would be without the National Health Service. If you would prefer paying hundreds or sometimes thousands for private healthcare then by all means do, but remember that the majority of people in this country can't afford that. In America I *think* there's around 50 million people without medical insurance, because they cant afford it.
The problem is if you're an 'ordinary' person you won't have many dealings with the NHS. It is only the people with diseases and conditions that require monitoring that have enough dealings to see the changes. In our area we now have a Urgent Care team dedicated to reaching patients with COPD and other respiratory conditions within a half hour of an exacerbation of their condition. Unless you have one of those conditions you're unlikely to know about it.
Most people's dealings with the NHS go as far as the A&E department, and a hell of a lot of people go to A&E for the wrong reasons - which is why a lot of departments are seen as slow and inefficient.
I've had friends go to A&E if for example they fall over and their leg starts hurting if they put weight on it, a lot of parents are overprotective. I've been admitted twice in my life, once when I was about three and I grabbed the bars infront of an electric fire :rolleyes: and once when I was 7 I was referred by a doctor.
But you are quite happy to use the NHS for your mental health problems that were mentioned elsewhere. Why didn't you go private then?
Why should there be state funding??
Why do you use state funded services?
Heh, no.
Government should be limited to protecting rights to person and property. So no health or state run education.
so lets make the poor people have no way out
If a family earns £30,000 a year and pays NO income tax then it could afford to send their children to uni at only a thousand pounds a year!!
Yes, but thousands, even millions people earn less than 30k a year.
And once again, why do you use state funded services?
And shyboy - people use A&E because they've run out of medication for heaven's sake. Hardly a good use of NHS time when it is their own fault they've run out!
You do realise the state gives schools, colleges, nurserys and universities money don't you. Only a thousand pounds a year? The universities would go bankrupt.
I've noticed it is usually the people who benefit most from the system of taxation that moan about it the most.
Also, I personally don't know anybody who has allowed having a low income to put them off going to university. It didn't stop me and I went to a very prestigious university. My parents gave me nothing. I paid all fees etc out of my student loan. If you want to go to university I don't think the cost (at the current level) should put you off.
I didn't know it was that bad, but I was agreeing with you before, people do overdramatise their own injuries.
tell me when did the wealthy ever give over some of that wealth on a regular basis and of enough value to ever help build a modern nation?
the trickle down effect maggie called it ...the richer the rich get ...the faster and more unhindered they do it the better for all as it trickles down to the people at the bottom. trickle was the only bit that was right.
this trickle down effect that happens when the few are allowed to control the mostest didn't work in victorian times did it
back then we we're the mightiest wealthiest empire this world had ever seen ...those who actualy did the fighting and the sweating to build that empire lived like fucking dogs ...where was the trickle down effect.
tody ...those with more than enough fight against the minimum wage etc ...so no change there then.
today ...the rich are paying more tax and the lowest earners less becuase of this labour government. the richet aren't paying any where near as much as they should be ...there is room to remove more of their dosh yet but still allow them to enjoy being extremely rich.
How would we finance street lights?
Good education would be based on how much you could afford.
Demerit goods would be overvalued and merit goods would be undervalued leading to a loss of positive externalities and an increase of negative externatlities.
Who would pay for the government?
Who would pay for the police?
Who would pay for the Queen!!??!?!?!?!
If government expenditure is about 5% of GDP, then you wouldn't need an income tax.
more like £13000/year!!!! or more for medcine or science based subject
Do you still don’t understand how the system works? From every five pence of taxes one goes to feed taxmen, one goes to special interest groups, one is wasted, one is stolen. So you have the fifth part of your money in return and are bloody happy that the government cares about you. Poor fools…
“The rich only can afford education and health care in free market system” bla-bla-bla. If the government didn’t distribute shoes the whole nation would walk barefooted. This kind of logics
I think we are all aware that we, the taxpayer, pay for public services. But most people don't care, because most people benefit. I use the roads, I received a great education, I like street lighting etc etc. What is your point? We are all aware it is us wh pays. Can you imagine a society without those things? It would be the middle ages.
Please, give an example of a modern society that works without taxation for public services! Also, I assume you don't use any public services then?