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Feeling rattled are we? LOL!
Have a peanut
Oh dear - words almost fail me!
You may not have been far out of London (by the sound of it) but for your information I was born in Birmingham, raised in Ireland, lived in Bath, Manchester and London (kilburn and Wilsden).
I'm not patronising you I simply replied to a request you made of me with an explanation about why I was late replying.
We have TV and newspapers here too you know
A few marginalised young whites might look enviously at this
Is that the best you can do? LOL!
It's an aside, I'm awaiting byny's research findings
Imagine this scenario, a white loser on a low salary, living in rented into his 30's looks at these enhanced opportunities and thinks 'why couldn't I have got that treatment, it's not fair'
We have to consider all, not just boost some
hypocrite
OK - you post your sources and I'll be more than happy to print the Daily mail article from 1995 (Typical Daily Mail reporting so be warned - it's not 'Research findings')
£50m scandal of corruption and incompetence by the Loony Left
From Daily Mail - 29/07/1995 (615 words)
Hal Austin
MILLIONS of pounds has been wasted through incompetence and fraud in one of Britain's most notorious local authorities, a QC declared yesterday.
More than 400 staff employed by the London Borough of Lambeth were involved in fraud of various kinds in the Eighties and early Nineties, according to Elizabeth Appleby.
Nepotism was also widespread, but Lambeth's Labour rulers were too busy waging war on Government policies to sort out the problems.
The regime in South-East London employed unqualified, inefficient and corrupt staff and was more concerned with political correctness than with the quality of service to residents.
Miss Appleby, who was called in by town hall chiefs two years ago, discovered there had been an unwritten policy of undermining collection of rents, poll tax and council tax. Council officers had fraudulently claimed income support and housing benefit and fraudulently-obtained council homes were sub-let for profit.
The council was now in 'an appalling financial and administrative mess, with non-existent or incompetent management' and local taxpayers are left facing an estimated £50million bill.
But her report - one of the most damning ever produced on town hall corruption - makes no recommendations for prosecutions, saying there is insufficient evidence to bring any new cases to trial.
Since 1993, there have been 90 prosecutions and ten other cases of disciplinary action. In the past few months three directors, including the finance director, have been suspended and disciplinary proceedings have been started. Lambeth was one the most notorious 'Loony Left' councils in the Eighties. The Labour group lost control in elections last year and the council is now hung, with Labour and Liberal Democrats each having 24 members and Conservatives 16.
Miss Appleby was called in to look into claims of contract scams in rubbish collection and road maintenance in 1993, following a highly critical audit report.
In her independent study, costing £100,000, she said that for most of the troubled years the council was plagued with a 'catastrophic litany of mismanagement'.
In an 'unstable and turbulent' period, unions had far too much power and Left-wingers' obsession with political correctness saw legions of unqualified and inefficient staff taken on because they were women, homosexuals or from an ethnic minority.
She said: 'I am satisfied that in the 1980s Lambeth's ruling party was intent on obstructing the implementation of Government policy in a number of areas, in particular failure to reduce public expenditure, refusal to accept the consequences of the abolition of the GLC, carrying out a policy of protecting its own workforce at all costs, thereby undermining the compulsory competitive tendering legislation.'
She claimed that the authority provided no proper services for years owing to mismanagement rather than underfunding. Lack of proper supervision in housing and finance alone led to a mini fraud empire involving more than 400 staff.
She had, she said, heard numerous allegations involving the influence of freemasonry, a 'mafia' exerting pressure over officers and a pornographic ring holding officers and members to ransom but had received no evidence to substantiate them.
Lambeth's newly-appointed chief executive, Heather Rabbatts, announced yesterday that she was setting up a team to root out corruption. Scotland Yard's public sector corruption unit is believed to be advising her.
'Any corruption will be dealt with efficiently and very quickly,' she said. 'The same is true where individuals are not up to the job they were appointed to do.'
Tory leader Councillor Hugh Jones complained: 'No one has been held to account for the millions stolen from the people of Lambeth.'
The head of the Labour group, Councillor Jim Dickson, said people had been 'utterly betrayed' by the old Labour leadership. But former Labour
leader Ted Knight insisted: 'My conscience is clear.'
Elizabeth Appleby, right, with Heather Rabbatts
Copyright 1995 Associated Newspapers Ltd.
Date: 29/07/1995
Publication: Daily Mail
AND A GREEK GIRL CAN EARN PLENTY IN THE LOONY LAND OF EQUALITY
From Daily Mail - 23/10/1992 (388 words)
Anthony Doran
IT'S not every day that a Turkish lesbian can open the paper and find the job of her dreams.
But she is just the sort of person Left-wing Haringey, in North London, is looking for. The council's Equalities Co-ordinating Team wants a 'central equalities officer - lesbian and gay.' Or at least half an equalities officer. The job is shared, and half is already held by a male homosexual.
Pay for the full post is between £23,136 and £24,837 a year - shared for a 17-hour week.
The appointment is advertised in the Pink, a 'gay' newspaper. The advertisement asks: 'Do you know about lesbian equality?' and goes on to say that the ideal candidate should have at least two years' experience in the field.
Potential candidates are told: 'The post is targeted to the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities, who are grossly under-represented in the council's work force.'
A council spokesman denied yesterday that the advertisement was discriminatory but admitted: 'Hopefully we will get a Turkish or Greek lesbian.'
Greek Cypriot councillor Andrew Charalambous, a Tory, did not approve. He said: 'This type of positive discrimination always backfires and only serves to divide opinions. The money would be better spent elsewhere.'
Mrs Dimitra Michaelides, another Greek Cypriot who helps her husband Pantelis run a dress-making factory in Haringey, said: 'The council have put up our rent by £2,000 in the middle of a recession and then hand out our money this way. I have four kids and work long hours for just a little cash yet this lesbian will be getting her money so easily. It's crazy.'
Tory councillor Jim Buckley, protested: 'Jobs should never be offered because of colour, creed or sexuality. Haringey always encourages discrimination by isolating different groups and offering employment only to them.'
The advertisement said that Haringey was proud of its 'progress on lesbian and gay issues'.
But homosexual Tory councillor Ron Aitken said: 'I have been on the council for four years and neither the lesbian and gay unit nor the new equalities unit has ever helped me or any gay or lesbian person I know.'
A month ago Haringey was accused of 'apartheid' after selling off land for homes reserved for African and West Indian families.
Copyright 1992 Associated Newspapers Ltd.
Date: 23/10/1992
Do I have to repeat myself, I reported anecdotes which have no web-links as they are anecdotes
hears a distant yipping sound
Perhaps she has some more up-to-date info that she'd like to share. My point is you need to be able to back up your anecdotes..
and while you are at it how about some kind of apology for the rudeness lastnight?
It's funny how everytime you, (Ladymuck), are asked to produce evidence or your stupidity and rudeness are put on display, you sidestep and fail to even make any kind of an apology for your outrageous behaviour
Funny that its all you ever do.
If they were false, Mail would have been open to libel
I thank you:)
You so don't live in the real world do you?
Do you know how often the tabloid press print complete lies? Do you know how often the get sued for libel? Do you know how often they get away with it?
Really, if your debating skills are comparable to the rest of the BNP, I think we're pretty safe. You're making yourself and your compatriots look very foolish indeed.
If we're all equal then we shouldn't be seperating communities into specific needs based upon colour or race surely.
Positive discrimination is as bad as negative discrimination, you can't have one without the other.
If employers want to employ certain people then fine, but not at the expense of someone who is more qualified.
The best example of this is with PCSO's in London. A large amount can barely speak English, others run away at the first sign of trouble.
Wether this is a representation of Londoners, or the Met's desire to recruit ethnic minorities at the expense of people who are qualified is unknown.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2796164
There was another link but it's dead. But I have heard from PC's based in the met that their PCSO's are having language and cultural difficulties when dealing with the public, not because they are English but because they are from other countries and haven't been given decent training.
"you hayseed, the instances I related are from N. London but then you probably don't know that there's a N/S to London, outside of your valley they're using the wheel doncha know"
or are you so underdeveloped that you can't even see how badly this kind of thing makes you look!? :rolleyes:
I don't think I'm being unreasonable - do you??
We're all equal, but we all have different needs.
Do you really think that people who live on a rundown council estate in a deprived inner city area have the same experience of life as someone who lives in a detached 10 bedroom house in Hampstead and who went to Eaton?
This is not my experience.
This is about high rates of sickness. Maybe thats because its a very stressful job?
Unfortunately there are certain communities who understand what it's like to be discriminated against because of their colour, religion or sexual orientation and so it is important that they ARE represented. I, as a white woman in Britain, will never really understand what it must be like to be treated differently because of the colour of my skin - even if I went to Africa I probably still wouldn't understand. I will never really know what it is liketo be gay but unable to tell my family and friends, or what it's like to be wheelchair bound. Therefore, so long as the person employed has the right academic qualification or experience in the field their ability to identify with the community group they are working with is hugely important and should not be underestimated.
I think the solution the Met needs is to take a similar approach to Police. They hold something every few months called a positive recruitment evening.
They normally hold it in one of the poorer areas of the city, or one with a higher ratio of asian or black people living there.
They also advertise it regionally on the radio and in the local papers.
They hold it somewhere with good parking/public transport links so ANYONE can get to it, not just the people locally.
I went to it to help, and yes there were a large number of white people present, but also quite a few black and asian people, and I think at a rough guess about 10% of those who came were from an ethnic minority. Which fits in line with the 6-7% ethnic minority population in . I even had a the husband of one of my good friends (he is Albanian) interested in joining as a PCSO, he meets the requirements and speaks good English but he can't write to well which he needs to work on.
Sadly he'd be ripped apart if he was based in a rural area (the amount of racism i hear is disgusting) but if he was working in the city he'd go down a treat.
This is how the Met and other public services should be attracting potential recruits, not by offering them an unfair advantage but by giving them the SAME opportunity as a white person and making it so they don't have a reason NOT to come if they want to join the police.
Every police officer in the LAPD has to know some spanish for example.
The USA doesn't have an official language so it's different there, they also have borders with a Spanish speaking country.
Irainians: Farsi
Afghanistan has three main languages: Pashtu, Dari and Farsi
Morocco: mainly classical Arabic or Berber
Nigeria: Mainly Hausa but also Yoruba or Igbo(sp)
Pakistan: Urdu
Bangladesh: Bengali
Albania: Albanian or Shqiptare
China: mainly Mandarin Chinese
Hope that helps PussyKat.
As for British people possibly starting to talk a second language, Urdu is one of the most prevailant, especially as that and Arabic is the language of Islam.