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Right to secret abortion?
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Does a teenager under the age of 16 have the right to a secret abortion. Or should the Doctor or health practictioner in question inform her parents?
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If the doctor is a State-obeying sheep or a religious fundamentalist he should.
If he is a honest guy believing in Oath of Hippocrates he shouldn’t.
d'oh. You'd have thought a mod would have nticed that we already have a thread going about this story...
But no, a Doctor should never inform the parents without the patients consent, or a court order.
because we don't have enough young people mired in poverty because they haeppent o be single parents, y'mean?
Bearing in mind the number of people who mistakenly think that they need parental consent now, I'd have said that this hasn;t worked.
Even if the girl is 14? I can understand at 16 but at 14, she is still officially recognised as being dependant on the support of her parents and under the age of consent. What would happen if she decided to make a bit of pocket money and have a kidney removed? Would patient/doctor confidentiality be upheld then?
hmm a WOMAN has a right to choose but a minor of whom isnt able to make proper decisions, sure she can have a abortion but the parent should at least be informed.. hopeully itll lead to the girl actually being careful of she wants to have sex!
The kidney removal reference means nothing, as removing kidneys for money is illegal whatever your age, even if your parents consent.
and would you let a 14yr old have a boob job?
Hypothetically give her a pair of bollocks and she's suddenly a bloke. What's your point?
No they don't. She is technically a minor, i.e. she is a dependent, but that does not mean she is dependent on her parents to make every decision she has to make. Her body, her life, her choice, age is irrelevant.
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Clinical governance means that cosmetic surgery is not performed on those with changing bodies and changing minds. As clinical governance covers abortions under the Abortion Act 1967.
What the hell are you on? Selling body parts for profit is ILLEGAL, and it wouldn't matter if she was 97 it would still be illegal.
She is a dependent, but she is not dependent on her parents to make decisions for her. Parents simply don't have that right; they have responsibility to provide for her and look after her, but the right to dictate does not come along with that. Simple as.
Her age is irrelevant.
i didnt say her parents shuld make her decision for her, i said i think they should just know, even if they have no real say, like i think the father should know so hopefully some lessons are learnt from it
she knew about contraception etc etc as no matter what people say about sex education, it does try to drum into you that you should always wear protection unless you are in a stablerelationship and are willing to accept the risk of having kids repsonsibly
im not saying its her fault and she deserved it, but people really should be more responsible for the actions and accept the consequences
Contraception fails. Or didn't you consider that from your high horse?
Were you ever a horny teenager?
Education is the key, not dracononian laws.
Innit.
nope im yet to fall off, giddy up
seriously though, we dont know the full story and if she didnt use contraception, was the point i was trying to make
i just think people should just be honest with eachother
And what are you on you sarcastic git? Sex at 14 is illegal (I'm not making a judment here - it's just the way it is).
So her parents do not need to make decisions about whether she goes to school or not, for instance? Being dependant is more than having food put on the table or having a roof provided over her head. Are you telling me that you would be okay if YOUR 14 year old daughter had an abortion behind your back? I'm sure you'd be the fist in line to bitch and moan.
Ditto.
And for your information, it is not yet illegal for a girl to have underage sex- the offence only applies to males having sex with underage girls. Though the law is in the progress of being changed.
Parents have a duty of care to their child, that does not mean they have the right to be told confidential information about their child, because clinical confidentiality prevents it.
Parents of young children only know what their children's medical problems are because the duty of care means that they have to take them to the doctor. Unless your parent goes into the surgery with you then they have no right to know what was said.
I'd like to think that if I had a 14 year old daughter, she'd be able to talk to me or her mother about things like this. Unfortunately some children don't have understanding parents, they might run the risk of being thrown out or worse. I'd rather someone had the option of having an abortion without telling their parents if the other options are worse.
There are so many possible medical complications to an abortion (I realise, in this case, it was a chemical abortion) - let alone the stress and guilt that may be carried around for years afterwards due to the fact that she has snuffed out an unborn life (especially if she is then unable to conceive in later life).
At 14, she is very unlikely to have a mature view on whether to keep it or not and the risks/options involved. Furthermore, it sends the message to her that it's fine to have unprotected sex ... if some baby dare inconvenience her while she's out having 'fun', so what? Fucking flush the worthless little life out and move on to the next sexual encounter - there are plenty more secret abortions where that came from.
I am not anti-abortion or 'woman's (note woman - not girl) right to choose' but the implications to this are possibly far greater reaching.
so what would you have her do then? Have a kid at 14 and ruin her life? Having an abortion does not necessarily mean a life of guilt. Some women have it done and give it no further thought.
Wrong (according to thesite anyway*). According to the Sexual Offences Act 2003, it is a criminal offence for any kind of sexual activity to take place between two people where one or both participants is under 16.
* http://www.thesite.org.uk/youthnet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=130&a=457
And having a kid doesn't "neccessarily mean" that her life is "ruined". Many woman have done it and are happy of their decisions ... but this is going off topic.