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Kiddie porn in The Sun newspaper

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Art is whatever the artist says is art.

    Bollocks.

    Not that I could define "art" myself though... ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd say its pretty much true. Art is whatever you want it to be.

    Listen to me, I went to art college. :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In that case, art must be dodging taxes whilst getting pissed-up in the Union bar as often as possible :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'll have you know that I worked, paid taxes and only ever went to the Union bar once in all my 3 years. :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    I'll have you know that I worked, paid taxes and only ever went to the Union bar once in all my 3 years. :p

    Then how can you claim to have been an "art student"... :confused::)

    Personally, when I was at college, I was in the bar every lunchtime and breack in lectures. I thought that was the point of going...?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I went as a "mature" student. I was actually doing a design degree and wanted a good result.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm sorry, but the words "mature" and "student" don't really fit together well, do they?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thats why I put the word mature in quotation marks...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Excuse me whilst I fail to be disgusted.

    The definiton of pornography is material that is sexual in nature, and involving sexual practices. Both pictures were just naked girls- big deal. Assuming that the pictures of the "child porn site" were just poses, and nothing more sexual than that, then it's not harmful and it's not pornographic. In my opinion anyway.

    I question the artist displaying pictures like that, because I wouldn't do that to my child, but it's not disgusting or depraved. Paedophiles are just as likely to be found beating off over the Next Directory- plenty of girls in knickers and swimsuits in there. Shall we ban catalogues?

    I can't stand the fucking hysteria about child pornography and paedophilia. The hardcore stuff is sick, and the people involved in that should rot in a damp cell, but a picture of a little girl in the buff is neither depraved, harmful nor pornographic. This is as ridculous as when that newsreader's boyfriend was arrested for taking pictures of his step-daughter in the bath.

    I question the artist, and I'm worried that the site is more than posing, but more than that I say: so what? I saw a naked girl on Channel Five six months ago- it was a pan shot and there was a naked girl playing on the beach. I propose that we burn down Channel Five!!!
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    There does seem to be the assumption that everyone who looks at that photo is going to immediately assume it is pornographic in nature and not just a natural image of a child being naked, and that nudity equates with sexuality, which I find a bit disturbing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To be honest I don't understand what all the fuss is about, a naked body... wow, like we're never gonna see one of those. :rolleyes:

    Besides, c'mon... this story was in the Scum, they love to pick a fight. That's ze media for ya. Blowing everything out of proportion to boost their sales.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LadyJade
    There does seem to be the assumption that everyone who looks at that photo is going to immediately assume it is pornographic in nature and not just a natural image of a child being naked, and that nudity equates with sexuality, which I find a bit disturbing.

    Very well worded, & totally agree.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I used to workin a bookshop and a new book came out which dealt with the subject of the sexualisation of children. It was a serious academic work about childhood and imagery.

    For weeks before it was published we had a series of very odd men coming in asking if it was out yet! I considered passingtheir details onto the police. The problem is that some people will use material like this to fuel their fantasies and desires. However, I think its wrong to equate pictures of children naked (as in art works and family shots) with pornography.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yes im sure everyone agrees that naked pictures fo child in a completly innocent way are harmless, like in family pictures, but the lack of informed consent on publically showing the picture on behalf of the daughter is what i disagree with...



    the other picture in the sun which apparantly came from a child porn site, i havent seen it (dont want to either) was presumedly taken in a sexual context, not in the innocent context as the mother/artist has done, and was possibly taken in a abusive situation so that is wrong, and ILLEGAL to reproduce in a newspaper!


    and i find it disturbing aobut the increasing sexualisation of childhood, i blame the advertisers!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by byny
    The problem is that some people will use material like this to fuel their fantasies and desires.

    People use the Next catalogue as a fuel for their desires and fantasies, people use pictures of the school swimming team printed in the paper as a fuel for their desires and fantasies.

    So what?

    LondonerChris- the second picture was of a girl posed leaning against a wall, it showed no more than the "art" picture. It was from a cp website, or so The Sun alleges, but to say it is porn is ridiculous.

    I fail to see the fuss. The Currant Bun is as bad as The Mail for always needing to be disgusted by something- they'll die of high blood pressure before long, one hopes.

    What I find more disturbing is The Sun paying 16-year-old girls sums of money to take all their clothes off. That is immoral.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Has anyone on here who thinks the Sun should be prosecuted reported them to the police yet?
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