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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Did any of you watch this on channel 4 last night? What did you think of it?

Purely curious

Susie x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :( didnt see that, I wanted to watch the one about the stammer on BBC1 I think it was, but I'd promised to go out for a chinese with a friend :(

    i am also curious so any information greatly appreciated, and susie *ahem*entertainment*ahem* :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    it annoyed me.

    those kids seemed to be really proud of their suicide attempts, like they were part of some exclusive club.

    they made no mention of the millions of people who deal with their depression everyday. they paid no attention to the fact that there were suicides long before the internet was even dreamed up. they ignored all the people who have depression and join support groups online to help them work through their feelings.

    i thought it was very one sided, and kinda childish.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I missed it. I wanted to watch it though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by badabing

    and susie *ahem*entertainment*ahem* :D

    Ah no panic, a Mod will be around later and move it to the right forum ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah I watched it as well. I remember there being quite a big thread about the kid who killed him self over IRC and I remember reading the transcript from the night just after it happened. I didn't like that lad who saw the other guy kill him self. He sounded as if he was like.. oh well, shit happens, never mind.

    If you wanted to look at that website but didn't get the address that was on the programe then you can check it out below.


    www.psyke.org - Self Injury Information and Support
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I watched some of that, i remember when that ripper guy killed himself. well i remember reading about it. Smoke2k was proper egging him on saying stuff like "eat more drugs" and the one that sticks in my mind is "ripper is a gangster"

    Well tbh smoke2k couldnt have done anything even if he wanted to as they were in different countrys and i guess he realies that and has choosen not to dewl on something that cant be changed.

    And that Andy guy that was on it looked just like screwtape if he had hair, glasses, a bubble end to his nose and fuck loads of cuts on his arm. But the rest of him looked just like him:lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    it annoyed me.

    those kids seemed to be really proud of their suicide attempts, like they were part of some exclusive club.

    they made no mention of the millions of people who deal with their depression everyday. they paid no attention to the fact that there were suicides long before the internet was even dreamed up. they ignored all the people who have depression and join support groups online to help them work through their feelings.

    i thought it was very one sided, and kinda childish.

    Well i didnt see it but if thats what happened in it i dont think i wanted to see it. how can someone be proud of trying to kill themselfs?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I just had a looky on that Psyke webby.... Very depressing threads, especially the "expressing your self" forum. I'm not sure wether the forums would help you much. Reading some of the posts reminds me listening to David Gray... depressing. :(:(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I watched it and in my opinion not very many of them seemed to take things very seriously,and in the real world that Penny would be locked up for being a pedo by now.
    Inviting young vunerable boys round to your house?yes thats not suspicious:|
    It's stupid how they were all smiling and laughing.I dont think the dude that overdosed online was aiming to kill himself i think he was just retarded.
    anyways thats my two cents.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    something else that annoyed me about this was the way that they made out that all the internet was bad.

    and now, if any parents have depressed kids, they're gonna be all funny about them being on the net. but it could be a real help.

    there are certain sites (usually the kind with message boards) that just breed insanity, and teach kids self-destructive behaviour.

    but then there are some sites that have loads of really useful information, and i know a lot of people that found resources through the internet which spurred them on the get help.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Irritated me.
    Just seemed like another channel 4 we're-so-cutting-edge-dealing-with-issues pile of toss dressed up as dealing with problems but being used as mindless 'entertainment'
    Wah this is so awful, the state of youth today.
    *shrug*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hmm this program did not entertain me at all, i thought it was terrible and quite frankly in very bad taste, and the people they had on the show, i'm sorry im sure they did have problems but they were laughing about it and excuse me but i dont find suicide funny, it made it look like any teenager who is depressive uses the internet to try and kill themselves :rolleyes: this is totally not true those with real problems dont go around telling all and sundry, yes they may go to certain places looking for help but they dont F**king BRAG about it :mad:

    I can see this this show merely going to serve the perpose of

    1) getting more teens to go on the net to get support for commiting suicide

    2)Unecessarily worrying many parents about thier children and what they do on the net

    3) Discourage those with reall problems and who need help from looking on the net for help
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    something else that annoyed me about this was the way that they made out that all the internet was bad.

    Totally Kaffy :p.

    That program did make the Internet out to be a place where nutters hang out and the only time that your gonna use it is if you wanna kill your self. Parents are definitely gonna be watching what their kids do online now.
    and in the real world that Penny would be locked up for being a pedo by now. yes thats not suspicious:|

    She's only helping other people with the same kind of thing she is going through. Just 'cause she invites youngsters round her house that doesn't make her a pedo.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i missed it, what was it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by rockerchick
    Penny would be locked up for being a pedo by now.

    Actually, she has helped many people, I am not sure why you only think of the sexual side to it, since there isn't any. Maybe you missunderstood something? Maybe you are obssed by it, or have had troubles?

    I have been a member of psyke for just 6 months, and I have realised that she's a very helpfull person. Before you judge someone, try and understand them first mate.


    Btw, first post, hello all.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    they paid no attention to the fact that there were suicides long before the internet was even dreamed up.

    It wasn't a suicide documentary, it was a documentary on both the internet and suicide. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Everyone is entailed to their own opinions. Rockachick.. You sure you watched it? From where I was she was helping the kids, I didn't feel that there was anything sexual to it.
    hmm this program did not entertain me at all,

    It was there to educate you not to entertain you.
    Discourage those with really problems and who need help from looking on the net for help

    I'm not sure if that's true. If you watch something and it's about adult websites, you don't think... hold on, if I go on the net all I'm gonna get is porn. It just depends on what places you look in. If people do think that then it's quite silly, don't you think?
    Btw, first post, hello all.
    Greetings Pyro, have a good one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well one stumbles across another board discussing the documentary. The documentary that I haven't seen, but one which I know all too well.
    I am uselesspsychicgarbage, I am Andy. I do exist, this is me, I am a person, I have thoughts and feelings, and I won't comment on the light in which the documentary portrayed suicide and the internet. I haven't seen the final cut, and at this time I have no wish to. It's not going anywhere, but from the response I have recieved the affect has been amazingly positive.
    Someone emailed me saying that the documentary saved his life. Maybe he will go on to save many others.

    For your information I am not a young boy, I can make decisions and choose who I should trust. I am not 'retarded', I have been through a very dark time. *sigh* Does it matter? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you would consider others thoughts and feelings, no?
    Suicide was a very real part of my life, but it is very difficult to talk about. Laughter and smiles enable us to talk about this topic in a flippant manner. I guess I'm not allowed to smile, but then that is another day.

    I am not here to be offensive, or undermining in anyway, I just want to spread some light. I will openly talk to anybody here who wants to talk this through more. I am more than happy to do that. But please don't judge me or others before you know us.

    Oh, and who the hell is 'screwtape?'

    Andy
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Greetings Andy, enjoy you stay.
    Oh, and who the hell is 'screwtape?'

    Not sure, think he/she may post on here. ?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ive been on the site that was featured last night as i am a member and the 2 featured on the programme seem great to me, and ive also been on other depression sites, as i suffer from it and it is helpful.
    I thought the programme last night was good, well take out the drugs thing as it was just stupid that guy was basically bragging about watching someone unfortnatly die and did nothign about it even though he could have. Bujt generally the suicide, self harm and the net was interesting and just show that there are good and bad sides to chatting on the net.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by badabing
    I wanted to watch the one about the stammer on BBC1 I think it was, but I'd promised to go out for a chinese with a friend :(

    Don't worry I'm sure it'll be repeated. *boom* *boom*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't worry I'm sure it'll be repeated. *boom* *boom*

    :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Felix Da Housecat
    Everyone is entailed to their own opinions. Rockachick.. You sure you watched it? From where I was she was helping the kids, I didn't feel that there was anything sexual to it.


    What I said was aimed in the context that if i 40 year old bloke turned around and said 'dear judge sir i have young vunerable boys in my house because i want to help them' it would not look all tooo good.

    Dont start with me because im really not in the mood.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by NinjaMaster
    Don't worry I'm sure it'll be repeated. *boom* *boom*

    harsh.

    but :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by uselesspsychic


    Oh, and who the hell is 'screwtape?'

    He posts on here, how come? x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dont start with me because im really not in the mood.

    Hmmm, that would make a change... not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by rockerchick
    What I said was aimed in the context that if i 40 year old bloke turned around and said 'dear judge sir i have young vunerable boys in my house because i want to help them' it would not look all tooo good.

    Dont start with me because im really not in the mood.

    Well isn't that nice. How exactly was your comment related to the documentary? It said that Penny was 23 and if Andy was at university at the time he met her, that would make him at least 18. You might like to consult a dictionary. And what is this 'real world' that you claim to inhabit?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They all seemed to be attention seekers. All animated and excited talking. All wanting to be on the telly. :rolleyes:
    The programme just seemed to find another reason to vilify, and blame yet another of societies ills on the internet.
    At the end of the day, it was a half hour programme, drawn out to over an hour long, based upon the unfortunate suicide of some kid.

    Mr_Wobble ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok I will be the first to admit perhaps my post was somewhat harsh but i felt I had to say something not about the people persay but the actual documentry. In my eyes it did try to make the internet look like a bad place (Although having now had the time to explore Psyke, I am happy to admit that my assumptions in my last post were wrong and that people who need help are coming forward which is a good thing).

    I will not however change my mind about the documentry (even if i am wrong) I felt that it was just another attemp by Ch4 to get ratings by using the shock factor
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't think the documentary makers themselves were trying to make headlines by being shocking but I'd agree with you about Channel 4. The only thing I found shocking about the programme was smoke2k's complete lack of remorse but the way C4 promoted it, you would have thought they wanted us to believe that our modems bombard us with messages from satan.
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