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We need a regular American neo-con poster in here
BillieTheBot
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It's all very well to discuss US foreign policy amongst ourselves and generally agree on the error of Bush's ways. But I do miss the banter against neo-cons!
Nothing more stimulating than checking the forum in the morning (or in the case of pnj, at around 1 pm) and see what sort of bullshit they've put forward this time to defend their Commander-in-Chief.
Globe only posts once in a blue moon, pnj is gone, and good old Greenhat is missing in action (hopefully not for real though). What are we to do?
Can anyone pretend they're a Bushbot until we get a real one? Any takers?
Nothing more stimulating than checking the forum in the morning (or in the case of pnj, at around 1 pm) and see what sort of bullshit they've put forward this time to defend their Commander-in-Chief.
Globe only posts once in a blue moon, pnj is gone, and good old Greenhat is missing in action (hopefully not for real though). What are we to do?
Can anyone pretend they're a Bushbot until we get a real one? Any takers?
Beep boop. I'm a bot.
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I would rather shoot myself:p
Give me an hour or two:)
i think kermits having a go ...
He's your man
Oh, you finally realised that you're not the only one here? :rolleyes:
Imagine the others to find somewhere else to play, when people here were too caught up in their own toys.
Meaning?
I play elsewhere too. That's not to say I would not want a resident bushbot on these boards. Neo-con bushbots are to bulletin boards what bathrooms are to houses: essential and a great place to crap on.
thats great lol
Hmm…I think I could, I understand their logic well and I can imagine myself in their shoes.( at least I think so. And then I read their articles, I mean not Bush’s team but neo-con intellectuals.)
But I’m afraid it can lead to confusion.
It's a very good neo-con post, but somehow it's not the same when you know your reply is not going to wind up its recipient as it should.
You're not here to debate/discuss, but to appear oh so smart and brush other people's opinions off.
Firm supporting references as in sources you choose to believe.
Btw, would appericiate it, if you were more direct. Easier to follow.
If by "attempting to look smart" do you mean deconstructing heavily-biased nonsense by heavily biased people with a deeply deluded view of the world and who will never, under any circumstances, admit their heroes might have done any wrongdoing, then yes I am guilty as charged.
Perhaps I'm doing too much of a good job with the bushbots then Jacqs? Should I stop posting links that prove that the US government, for instance, has been guilty of torture to spare the blushes of the likes of pnj who climbed on a high horse himself and stated the magnanimous, freedom-loving US government could never do such a thing? What would you expect me to do? To say 'you're right mate, it is absolutely impossible that a soldier of the US army could ever torture others'?
How long would you last attempting to engage in rational debate with a person who, say, continuously claims the Jewish race was inferior to others, or that the Holocaust didn't happen, and that ignores the evidence posted to the contrary?
But it gets pretty clear to see why people are leaving this forum, there is no discussion here. Merely people using the same kind of arguments as they shoot others down for using.
Becomes evident, when not participating in the discussion oneself.
As it happens, even in the face of clear regurgitation of what the US media was (and continues) putting forward as "informed opinion", there WAS debate here. Debate which consistently exposed the duplicity and the ultimate mess that would be the result of the policy agenda being pursued throughout the globe.
Sadly, as world events vindicated those of us who made every effort to replace the lies with more truthful and contextual analysis, those who preferred to cling to the lies melted away for lack of any credible response other than admission that they had been duped.
You may call that "thinking you're smarter than anyone else", however that is little more than a means of avoiding coming to grips with misinformation. That, Jacq, is the nature and point of debate, two opposing theses, argumentation, and comprehension.
Where supporting references might have been deemed inadequate in any given discussion, true debate methodology requires that the sources themselves be addressed and refuted. That was never the case with those not any longer with us.
If that doesnt sit well with you, then you should assess whether you are prepared to actually engage in legitimate debate.
I think there is better discussion here that's ever been. More people are certainly venturing in from elsewhere then they were a while ago. If anything the level of nastiness has been greatly reduced since all the "when are you going to stop beating your wife up" and "you are a traitor and a collaborator" 'arguments' from Greenie and Thanatos have dried up.
Do you visit other sites then, Jaq? I have three other regular stop offs, but I like this one best. It's true though, that it's less fun without the gung ho jibes of diesel and thanatos, but banning them doesn't drive them away, it just keeps them keen. I'm sure they'll be back...
Can we get a tech in here? The record seems to be stuck.....
But it does tend to be a discussion rather than a debate. That's what has changed.
What we have here now is too many like-minded people who tend to agree on most issues.
Have to agree though that the tone is different.
Even then, though, it's pretty much along "party lines". How often can you predict the stance that someone will take?
Of course, Gibraltar bring a whole new approach but we can;t discuss how the Spanish a wrong there (sorry I mean that issue
I'm always happy to discuss Gibraltar.
Inbreeding tends to foster that.
It grows tedious, observing the daisy-chain self-admiration society. Perhaps if some actually viewed the real world, rather than their only illusions, and their delusions were not so fragile as to be shattered by reality, then they would not be so threatened by having those illusions questioned and label ALL who question them as "neo-cons"...
:rolleyes:
They can go back to their inbreeding, and circle jerks. It was what they do best...
You see, I actually laughed at that.
You still living in Southern US?
Inbreeding... great one mate.
But interesting nonetheless to see him coming out of the woodwork at this precise time. Coincidence? Something more sinister perhaps?
And wouldn't you know it, he uses the word "delusion" again. The irony of it all is almost too delicious to take.
I think you will find that there have been American posters of conservative leaning who have been posting here and have not been branded neo-con bushbots, despite many of us disagreeing with some of their views. That's because they have been debating reasonably and would not be willing to defend the Great Leader if, for instance, he had been seen throwing live babies into ovens for a laugh. Which is something I get the feeling others would attempt to justify.
I assume that besides from the American gang posters like Balddog, MacKenZie, Vox populi vox Dei, Prufrock and DJP are without relevance.
Clearly those were the most intelligent and thoughtprovoking posters this site has seen.
Apparently to you, they never existed.
What did I do now?
I was disappointed to see him using the daisy chain analogy, but he slipped in the circle jerk at the end there...
What made you think that was directed at you?