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  • Laura_tigger82Laura_tigger82 Moderator Posts: 5,322 Part of The Furniture
    You have done really well to share this with us @shannonxg_. How did it feel that you were able to 'tell us' / let this out? Whilst some people are diagnosed as neurodivergent in school, you are right this can be a much lengthier and more complex process for other neurodivergent people.

    This means some people, especially autistic females, are diagnosed much later than other people. There are also neurodivergent females who are diagnosed in schools though (I was one of these!). It sounds really frustrating that all you want is to feel listened to - by professionals who should be listening - and yet you still do not feel heard.

    Has anyone indicated a timeframe for the assessment at the moment? Could someone sit with you whilst you make the call - would that help at all? I am also aware that doodling whilst on the phone can help many of us whilst we are needing to make phone calls. I wish the world was more accommodating but we are just not there yet I am afraid.

    Until the world is more accommodating though, there are always things which can help make difficult things more manageable!! These things are never too big or too small, whatever works best for us. Some also allow emails, rather than phone calls, is this something which might be possible or could one of the professionals who are recommending this call on your behalf / with you?

    We are with you and feeling physically sick about phone calls is something I can certainly empathise with and continue to battle!! You aren't alone, even if this feels isolating with things not being set up the way you need (and deserve) them to be <3
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  • Laura_tigger82Laura_tigger82 Moderator Posts: 5,322 Part of The Furniture
    You do know what you are talking about @shannonxg_. It sounds like you are very aware and have a very clear insight. You deserve to feel heard. Though I am aware, some people will need to be challenged regarding their beliefs I am afraid.

    In the UK, there are less waiting lists for private assessments. Although these can be costly, there are also avenues for financial support to access these. Is there anything similiar where you are which might be possibilities?

    The lack of support - at least ongoing support - sounds particularly difficult for you right now. Some resources you might find helpful are:
    • Autism NI
    • Autistica
    • National Autistic Society
    • ADDNI
    • ADHD Foundation
    • ADHD UK

    How do these sound? I know you don't have a diagnosis at the moment but they may still be able to support you through this process and, more generally, even without diagnosis. Quite a lot of services recognise there are barriers to diagnosis and are, therefore, still able to offer support.

    Is talking to them about your communication needs/preferences/differences a possibility? I would hope this would be an option but I do recognise not everyone is there yet in terms of being this open I am afraid <3
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  • KatieKatie Community Manager Posts: 190 Trailblazer
    Hey @shannonxg_ just hopping in here 👋
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    i really did try to get that point across to my mum about how yes teachers can be the ones to start the process but not always, sometimes teachers won’t pick up on things leaving people going undiagnosed until 18+ years old.
    I really hear you here Shannon and this is so true. Please don't test me on the statistic but I know there's a good chunk of people who don't receive a neurodiversity diagnosis until they're in adulthood, including a few of my friends. I think particularly with people masking and maybe not showing as noticeable symptoms, or coming under the term as "high functioning". We do know that neurodiversity is a spectrum, and how one person acts will not be the exact same as someone else. I also think it's particularly hard to change the mindset of people that think it's black or white. Just because you weren't diagnosed as a child doesn't make how you are feeling any less valid. Not everyone can get a diagnosis as a child, which doesn't make how you are feeling any less real for you. I'm sure you know more than me based on your own research you've been doing, but I just wanted to say I hear you loud and clear <3
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    at the moment i’m not working - i left my job as a result of my mental health. i’m not eligible for universal credit anymore as i went back into education. i can’t get any student support as you need to upload evidence of your household income, which my mum says she isn’t doing so that makes me unable to apply.
    This sounds really frustrating and so much to deal with. How are you holding up? I also wanted to ask if you feel comfortable sharing why your mum doesn't want to upload evidence of the household income? This is genuinely the standard practice for getting student loans as it just determines how much they can offer you based on the household income. You can find more information about the processes on the Government's website that might be able to answer any concerns or questions your mum has.

    I'm also sorry to hear you're on the verge of being homeless Shannon. Do you have any support around you? You were so brave to reach out for support so I can only imagine how frustrating it was when they weren't listening to you. There are some other organisations that offer information online and some even have webchat options. I've popped a few down below for you to take a look at. Let me know what you think
    Centrepoint have useful information on their website for homelessness https://centrepoint.org.uk/
    Shelter offer advice and information on all aspects of housing or homelessness in the UK. They also have a webchat https://www.shelter.org.uk/
    Housing Rights NI also offer advice and information, and they have a webchat https://www.housingrights.org.uk/

  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 374 Listening Ear
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  • KatieKatie Community Manager Posts: 190 Trailblazer
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    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    the only reason im even going somewhere with it now is purely because the youth workers were high the ones to mention it, they brought it up not me, so now a professional has picked up on it i feel a bit more valid?
    @shannonxg_ I'm really glad your youth workers noticed. I hear you that it feels more valid, especially as the professional should know what they're talking about and know what signs to look for. Did you end up phoning the doctors? It must be so difficult not being able to phone places, especially when the world we live in today is still majorly inaccessible. I know it's not the same but lately I've been trying to contact student finance and the only way to get in contact is to phone them up but my mic for some reason hasn't been working every time I've been put through (after waiting an hour or so on hold!). I had a similar experience where I was trying to contact their customer service who just kept saying I needed to phone up and weren't hearing me out when I said it wasn't working. They did send me an address and asked me to send my request in writing - it's just all a bit of a faff. I can't imagine living with that frustration and inaccessibility everyday Shannon. I really feel for you.
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    i even told her that they have the option where i can apply and they will email her directly for the evidence so i will not have any idea of what she earns if that’s the issue. she just keeps telling me it’s no one else’s business what she earns. i am in the process of applying for pip however really struggling with filling in the form and have no one who could help me, the service that can help have to be contacted by phone to make a phone call appointment so that’s another barrier for me as i make myself physically sick at the thought of phone calls.
    I was going to mention that your mum can fill it in without you knowing what the amount is but it sounds like you've exhausted all of the options. Is there anyone at college who might be able to help you with filling in the PIP? Citizen's Advice have useful information on filling it in too I've popped the link in here
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    i literally don’t have any support really.
    I'm also wondering why you think you don't have any support Shannon, because from the sounds of things I think there are people who genuinely care about you and are there for you to lean on <3 You have your Mix Counsellor, youth workers, and a wellbeing officer. These are all great options of support. I know it's scary the thought of police being involved but that would only happen if there was concern for you to keep yourself safe. And we want you to be safe Shannon <3 Opening up to others can be terrifying when we're practically baring our soul and being honest about how we are feeling, but you might actually find some relief from it. It can help with taking a bit of that heavy load off of your shoulders, and maybe even help you to organise your thoughts, or look at them from a different perspective. I hear you that you're scared of your mum or police getting involved, but your safety is a priority Shannon.

    I think you've already taking a huge step by joining us here at The Mix and sharing with us what you're going through. You have been so brave being open with us. Maybe this will help you to feel more comfortable opening up to your counsellor, youth workers or wellbeing officer. What do you think?
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  • KatieKatie Community Manager Posts: 190 Trailblazer
    Hey @shannonxg_ no worries at all for not replying sooner there's no pressure <3 I've also had a few days off too!
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    i think what annoyed me most with the whole simon community thing is the fact that they actually on their contact us section a phone number and an online from which will be responded to via email, i thought at least they have the option of the online form but all they do is advise you to then just phone so like what is the point in it?
    I completely hear you on this it must've felt so relieving to see you could email them but how disappointing they don't actually offer support through the email. I feel like that should definitely be made clear on their website! Feeling annoyed about this is completely valid and I'm here with you on that one.

    I'm glad to hear that link helped you a little bit! Apologies I didn't even clock you're in Northern Ireland - online it does say someone could call on your behalf but you'd have to be with them. Does this sound like a possible option for you or not? Also, do you think you could contact your student wellbeing officer to see if she could meet with you sooner as the form is due in soon? With it being time sensitive she might be able to squeeze you in a bit sooner to make sure you have that support you need to get it filled in. It's super important you do fill it in and send it off soon as I'm sure this benefit would make a huge difference for you <3
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    the wellbeing officer i have 1 more appointment with then that’s the support over. i only have 6 more sessions with the mix counselling. the youth workers that have been the ones to suggest the assessment offered me a one off appointment, im probably never even going to hear from them again but i definitely won’t see them again for sure.
    It sounds really daunting that your support is coming to an end Shannon. I'm sure this has left you with all sorts of feelings and questions. I'm sending you hugs as you navigate this next chapter <3 Do you know if you have any more options after these support appointments are over? Like if they could signpost you anywhere or offer you some advice? Is it possible something might come from the one-off appointment or not do you think?
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    i do understand the whole safeguarding side of things but its just that it makes everything at home so much worse then. that is my issue:(
    Ah I've got you Shannon that makes sense for you to be scared about them getting involved if it makes it worse for you. You do deserve the support though and it's important you know that.
    shannonxg_ wrote: »
    i was debating on emailing the wellbeing officer but i feel like my email is just so dramatic and its all silly and that im just annoying her so i dont think i am going to bother.
    I don't think an email would be dramatic Shannon - I think this is a really good next step. She's there to help look after your wellbeing so you wouldn't be annoying her. You could also ask about support for the PIP form, even if she just sends an email with some advice for filling it out. How does that sound?

    I realise I've asked quite a lot of questions and there's no pressure for you to answer them all! I just think they're worth considering as you decide what to do next. Just know we're here for you Shannon and I'm glad you were able to take that break. It's really important you look after yourself and listen to what your mind and body needs as it sounds like you've got a lot on your shoulders at the moment <3
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