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Sometimes it really goes astray:
http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20020107-166109.shtml
And Randy Weaver can tell you all about it.
Diesel
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But surely the fact that congress exists means that not everybody makes the decisions. You don't live in a democracy at all, a democracy by definition, like you said is where everyone decides or where people elect their reps. A republic has unelected reps who decide our fate.
I don't recall your congress being elected? And your presidential elections are a joke anyway.
You said it yourself: "Democracy.....decisions made by everyone attending the meeting. Republic.....representatives make the laws"
Imagine this for a hypothetical situation: the people attending the meeting are the representatives.
Bingo. A democratic government and also a republic.
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Democracy means that the government is identical to the citizenry. That is, all citizens are at least legislative if not executive members of government.
"Republic" comes from res publica, the public business. That is, the government's business is the interest of the people, not self-interest. Hence, elected government, a.k.a. representative democracy.
The USA can be variously described as a (representative) democracy, a federal union, a republic, a federal republic... All stemming from the fact that it's a union of largely independent states.
And Congress not being elected? Wtf?!?!? Perhaps the Presidential elections get the headlines (and rightly so, 'cause letting the judiciary effectively select the executive is a travesty), but the Congress (both houses) is an elected body.
Er....congressmen/women ARE elected officials, as are Senators. It is the UK who has appoint reps - the Lords.
Perhaps I'd better explain what I meant when I said 'democracy'. I meant a representative government, where those reps are elected on a democratic basis (ie one person, one vote). Neither of our systems is truly 'deomcratic', with our first past the post system and the USs electoral college system, you can end up with a government where less than 50% of votes cast can still elect a government.
Also worth noting that in the UK elections last year more people didn't vote at all, than actually voted Labour!
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I accept that f-p-t-p is not perfect but IMHO it is better than PR.
Furthermore, public apathy is not the fault of the system of voting. It might well be the fault of uninspiring politicians who consistently fail to deliver on their promises....but not of the system itself.