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Why dont they just leave?
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I was watching the news earlier and it showed Iraqis protesting against American troops, they had shot two iraqis for protesting, i dont think that America should be allowed to stay in the country any longer, just get the fuck outta there...its not their country, they have destroyed enough of Iraq.
They arent doing any good staying there and dont say they are waiting for Sadamm and his supporters because in reality Sadamm is either dead or away in some tunnel underground free from danger from attack and is just waiting till its safe to live again.
Any views? Don't you think America should leave.
They arent doing any good staying there and dont say they are waiting for Sadamm and his supporters because in reality Sadamm is either dead or away in some tunnel underground free from danger from attack and is just waiting till its safe to live again.
Any views? Don't you think America should leave.
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They can't leave the job half undone.
I agree they shouldn't be there but they can't leave until they've got the job done.
I'm not trying to defend Bush, I just think they've made their bed and now they've gotta sleep there.
Those people that were shot attacked the troops. First they pelted stones for over an hour than they ran towards the troops. Since the wonderful terrorist-sympathetic, Arab world has people committing human sacrifices...suicide bombings against the troops and other innocents...I rejoiced when I read my troops defended themselves.
Saddam's supporters, former thugs and torturers will get no sympathy from America.
Try immoral France or Belguim.:mad:
You madden me greatly :mad: :mad:
You are the one who is brainwashed by your American government and continue to believe this bullshit,when are you going to open your eyes?
They threw stones and ran at them, that hardly justifies shooting at them, does it?
The protesters werent suicide bombers... i will rejoice the day people like you and american supporters get a taste of their own medicine again.
Saddam and his supporters dont want sympathy from America, they want them dead and out of their country.
Yes, shame on the Iraqis - throwing stones at an occupying power with soldiers in bullet proof vests and helmets in their metal tanks no wonder the poor loves had to defend themselves. Jesus, if American soldiers are that sensitive god knows how they'd have coped with the supposed weapons of mass destruction. Just goes to prove what the British army say about the American army "all brawn no brains". And as for your rejoicing at people dying - regardless of what they did - PNJ you are sick.
PNJ how do you know they are Saddam's supporters. I know a guy from an Iraqi family at my school - no matter how much he hates Saddam, he's not exactly keen on you Americans ruling over him. This is something Europeans understand, most of Europe has lived under an oppressive foreign regime and know how much it is hated. Wouldn't you hate it if the French say invaded your little town and controlled your people? It's a natural reaction from anyone with an ounce of patriotism in them - even you should understand that.
Yes, bad France and Belgium how dare they obey what their populations want, not make up false intelligence to support the Americans and not fall into line. Bad France and Belgium for sticking to a point of principle that America doesn't like. If any country acted immorally during the Iraq crisis it was the British government and especially the Prime Minister.
If that's what he thinks...that says it all about what he hears in your biased media...and nothing about America.
Don't lie for immoral France and Belguim. The facts are on the Internet for anyone to discover themselves.
Just another willing victim of the Washington propaganda machine who will go back to sleep and not give so much as a moments thought to finding out whats going on abroad once his beloved right wing media moves on to some other mudslinging target.
He's simply a reflection of the worst my country has to offer. Fortunately in academic communities around the country youll find clear headed, questioning, and intelligent Americans who are aware of what Bush and co are up to and the lies they have long been using to justify themselves. I highly doubt pnj will ever be counted amongst people of that calibre.
Indeed they are, a pity you dont ever bother to avail yourself of more than a handful of right wing propaganda sites. You might actually learn the truth, God forbid!!! :eek:
Okay PNJ these are the facts even you should be able to agree with - there is an American man heading Iraq, the American army is on the streets stopping mob rule, there is an American appointed cabinet as the government of Iraq. How can you say that Iraq is not being ruled by the Americans?
Our media is not biased for the thousandth time! For God's sake PNJ I am telling you what virtually all non-American media are saying. How can the rest of the world be wrong and America be right? Or is the flag covering you so much that you cannot even see any faults in your country of which there are many just as in all countries.
I'm not lying - which governments made up their dossiers? The "facts", are these the same "facts" the government used in their dossiers and were later proved to be totally false?
However this had the downfall of taking away what the majority of the population was used to, a large part of the population has never had anything in their lives but dictatorship...and taking it away so suddenly would ofcourse lead to everything which had happened.
yes both armies helped to bring a stop to the many lootings that took place but then britain with-drew, this was the right thing to do. i believe they should allow the country to re-build itself after they have done this....yes offer them advice and aid if they need it but dont take over the country.
as was said previously the killings which occured were not justified as the iraqi people bear no arms, throwing stones at armed soldiers should not result in their deaths.
another point i would like to add is that suicide bombings occur for other reasons, not anything to do with iraq or its war...perhaps pnjsurferpoet you could get your facts correct before posting utter rubbish
haha throwing stones, riot police in this country cope with petrol bombs,when they dont posess guns! surely the american soldiers could take a note off of the british soldiers who are actually socialising and stuff with locals,and being HUMANE, not some overarmed imperialistic power
This sums up my feelings about American foreign policy and The War Against Terrorism (also known as TWAT)
They should leave the Iraqi people alone and if anything, give them money to rebuild their country without intrusion. It's Iraq and not 'America two'.
Here here..well said, give them money and the fuck off out.
my view is if they can't finish off the job then they should leave
I know. You're the kind of garbage we've gone to war to protect America from.
Londonwhatever...the Brits are patroling in the South of Iraq where the Shiites, who were murdered massively by Saddam live. America is patrolling in the area where Sunni Muslims live who benefited by Saddam. You need to read more and not get everything from the biased BBC.
Im the kind of garbage youve gone to war to protect America from .... do u even know me,no u dont, dont judge me on no evidence as u have none, so what if i dont support america..i dont have to and u are the one who is brainwashed and ur news in biast dont u think, its cnn your probably getting all your media fed shit from and i think thats a bit biast as its an american newsroom and of course they are going to make America look the best.
ignorant blather!
Hatred is what caused people to kill 3,000 innocent people - including Muslims - on 9/11.
Why are you suprised that I feel America needs to be protected from the blind hatred?
Those who speak out in defiance of the abuse of power of this admin and its destruction of of our most basic rights and freedoms as well as our nation's international reputation are those who love the country most.
Or do you suppose your parents would be showing you their love if they simply refused to question your misbehaviour and let you run wild?
Sad deluded and ill informed boy. Go get an education!
They've also changed rules for giving to charities.
No PNJ the biggest blow against terrorism would be if you took away their impetus for hating the west - if America showed itself to be a responsible and caring nation enough so they could stop bombing the shit (excuse my language) out of innocent people for re-election purposes then we would all benefit. PNJ people don't just go to terrorism, terrorism is a disease, it feeds off people feeling they're unwanted, unappreciated, being kept in poverty by the west. If America really wanted to defeat terrorism they could cancel all Third World debt, they could invest in Third World infrastructure giving all the people in the world an education and a clean water and a safe sewerage system. Best of all it would cost much less than the whole American defence budget for a year.
Okay, it wouldn't necessarily guarantee re-election for Bush but it would be the right thing to do. If you think that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq weren't for the purpose of the 2004 re-election campaign then I challenge you to find one Republican election advert that doesn't make reference to the military in some shape or form or if that's too vague I can guarantee that they will use Bush on that aircraft carrier in his jumpsuit. Instead the actions of your government are driving people to Al-Qaeda, America sought revenge for 9/11 and so bombed Afghanistan and Iraq, how many people seeking revenge in these countries do you think you'll create? They won't need heat seeking missiles or nuclear weapons just a few dozen pounds of semtex or a bottle of arsenic.
America is not the first country that has experienced terrorism - it is the normal way of the world, sad but true. The way to show the terrorists they haven't won is to move on, America is dwelling on 9/11 and it isn't healthy. Yes, pay respect to the dead. Yes, increase your security measures so you can prevent it happening again. But don't let the terrorists destroy everything your country is known to hold dear for the sake of fighting the terrorists already we see freedom of speech reduced as people are criticised for being "unpatriotic", we see civil rights reduced through the Homeland Security Act.
Clan is right PNJ and you would do well to listen to him, America is like the little child who because it trips over and hurts itself becomes frightened, and I do believe all Americans are frightened at heart not militaristic or imperial, it runs around hitting whoever it can because it needs them to feel the pain they felt. It is sad that the American people's genuine fear has been milked for such horrible geo-political purposes as advanced by the Bush administration.
PNJ America has contributed some of the best things to the world and the Americans are a wonderful people. Some of my best childhood memories are from visiting your country. The reason the rest of the world gets so steamed about American foreign policy is not because we hate America, it is because we love America and can see that it is harming itself.
I like a lot of what you said. The guys who planned 9/11 were wealthy. You're probably talking about poor people being attracted to jihad now.
I think a lot of what you said is valid. And I still believe what I said about Saudi Arabia promoting hateful Whabbism is true too.
Clandestine: "sockpuppet"
(I'm not laughing at you...that word just got me...pictured my face on a sock...blahaaa.)
As well as those of its neighbours who had for so long been our staunchest allies, but which are being ignorantly and arrogantly demeaned for questioning the wrongheaded policies (and the lies used to justify them) of this corrupt and criminal administration.
Jihad is not an organisation pnj, its an action and one which (in its militaristic rather than spiritual sense) is foundational to all muslim extremist groups. He said quite clearly and correctly that the victims of Bush's warmongering agenda have all the more cause to enlist in one or another extremist cell in hopes of getting some revenge for our renewed programme of imperial corporate inspired conquest.
Instead of finding any means possible to cling to the falsehoods youre being fed, try accepting that you truly have very little personal knowledge of what is actually happening in our name abroad and you just might start to get the bigger picture that is so clear to those of us outside the country.
Yes but PNJ whether it's Saudi Arabia preaching Whabbism or militant Islamic clerics promoting jihad the necessary actions of the US remain the same. These organisations feed of hatred of the west if they see the west as the good guys how can they be hated? Therefore the answers which have been suggested in the first paragraph of my last answer are still valid. America shouldn't stoop to their level by encouraging hate and division. You just can't just use "they started it" as an excuse America should take the high road and not fight with Al-Qaeda for the low road. The current actions of the American government are in fact almost certainly what Osama bin Laden wanted after 9/11 and the Bush administration fell right into his trap.
To date the full extent of the inconsistencies to the cover story remain unexamined by Congress. The stench of it still rises from the site and I suspect the victims still turn in their graves over the whitewash thats been perpetrated by those who benefitted most.