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labour or conservative?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
simple enuf question. Just wondering who ud vote for if u could vote (for those too young).

Id go consevative cos blairs dropping the pound, apart from that not much else bothers me.
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  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    ........ or lib dems.

    im old enough to vote but im not gonna coz i think theyre all as bad as each other.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the conservatives seem to jump on the band wagon, or play on peoples fears. People fear the unknown (ie the euro) with no real reason despite the fact it is a change. They like to jump aboard when people criticise labour, but rarely come up with good ideas of their own.

    ps i would vote lib-dem or labour
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    gfm beat me to it about forgetting the lib dems...Luka wouldnt be too happy <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
    I agree with the person saying about hague bandwagon jumping - he seems to do that alot. I also wont be old enough to vote, but i would probably be going for labour.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can't answer this obviously, since I'm Canadian, but it's interesting to me nonetheless. I wonder if someone could help me understand a couple of things by answering a few questions.

    1. Where to the liberal-democrats fall on the left-wing/right-wing scale? Between the other two parties or somewhere else?

    2. Has this party been around long? The rest of the world is quite familiar with your other 2 parties, but I have to admit I've never heard of them.

    3. Would you like to see more choice in mainstream parties or are you happy with the current system? In Canada we had a 3 party system for years, but recently the system has changed dramatically. Now there are 5 major parties, which has both benefits and downfalls.

    would anyone like to help me out here?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Liberal Democrats are kinda between the 2 parties (slightly closer to Labour).

    I think the group has been around for quite a while, before the 1st world war? Labour and conservatives are the most popular parties which is probably why you have never heard of the liberal democrats.

    I think more choice in parties would probably be a good thing. I think there would be more competition between the parties to get elected so they would have to come up with better policies and actually fulfil their promises. At the moment all the groups seem to be equally hopeless and spend most their time critising the other groups rather than doing anything.

    Hope this has been a bit of help, I'm sure someone will know exactly when the Lib. Dems. were formed and where exactly they are politically.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    um lib dems are not inbetween. They are the most liberal of the 3 paries. thus the name "liberal democrats"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh for fucks sake, the Euro is not going to ruin your fucking economy. It will increase trade, companies will feel happier in comparing costs of living and generally people will learn to accept it.

    As I've already explained, having a strong currency is not always good. Especially at the moment, with meat in a minor crises. You NEED Europe to trade with, for defence and for many other things that I can't list cos I haven;t thought about it long enough.

    I would just like to finish by saying the Harry, you are full of fucking bullshit. Where did you get the idea that the Euro will ruin ur economy? What evidence or theory do you have to back it up? C'mon mate, you're in a politics board (which you say you don't read anywa, ahem), you gotta be all prim and proper with your arguments.

    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And in answer to your question, I would vote lib-dems if i could, but i;m too young and not even living in the UK. The Tories are crap. Just crap. Generally, they remind me shit just looking at them. Hague looks like he came out of a dogs arse. Or was abducted by aliens and never recovered <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">.

    Blair...yeah, well, he's well meaning, but you gotta be proactive about htings, and you've got to be more in touch with the nation. The petrol crises was a fiasco, but don't worry cos come election time Labour will turn attn away from that. And the FMD, BSE etc was hardly their fault. And don't bring hte Tories back into power, cos look at the mess we've been trying to clear up for the past x years. That'll be their line to win.

    And don't worry people anyway - if ur Tory, don't bother voting cos u wont win. If ur labour, don't bother voting if u know ur Tory friends aren't cos they it'll all be even and Blair or whoever will win by a long way. And if you're LibDem, good luck and hopefully you'll get some more seats.

    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by You Don't_Know_Me:
    um lib dems are not inbetween. They are the most liberal of the 3 paries. thus the name "liberal democrats"

    But the lib-dems work closely with labour about somethings whereas they have sweet fa to do with hague and his gang.

    PS - will the monster raving lonely party be running for election? I know their 'leader' Screaming Lord Sutch (i think) died but didnt the bloke taking over say the party was to carry on? They always bring a <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; to my face in a sometimes boring election campaign.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I would vote labour.
    for the reason that they have only had one term in office, anybody needs more time than that to successfully fulfil their promises. The euro is something that if anything will strengthen our economy.
    We do far more trade with Europe than with America and stand to lose more if we have a strong currency. Like I said before the only people who benefit from a strong pound are tourists leaving the country. Consumers here are at a disadvantage because we cannot easily compare prices.
    Maybe, when the Euro is brought in they could have regional versions, like we do for scotland, wales e.t.c. So a british euro would have the union jack and brittannia on it, a french one would have the cockerel or tricolour and the germans could have a erm...(something german) on theirs. It would be worth the same as any other euro, the only difference would be what it looks like.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere:
    So a british euro would have the union jack and brittannia on it, a french one would have the cockerel or tricolour and the germans could have a erm...(something german) on theirs.

    A hairy woman??



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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I better apoligise for that before someone starts having a go at me

    "Is sex dirty? Only if its done right."
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  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    Originally posted by Whowhere:

    snip...and the germans could have a erm...(something german) on theirs. It would be worth the same as any other euro, the only difference would be what it looks like.

    a frankfurter?



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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh FFs...we all know they'll have a picture of a sausage and beer.

    and maybe add a hairy woman to that. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    Seriously, no, they wouldn't do that. The EU doesn't like the idea of nationalism, cept when towards a united Europe.

    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle:


    Where did you get the idea that the Euro will ruin ur economy? What evidence or theory do you have to back it up?


    i wish I taped that money program now. Well its in the papers, the political programs n everything so bullshit urself u dumb twat.

    it may not ruin the economy but it could damage it and its that that everyones fear is based on, even if it is ranging to the paranoid.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I take it no-one has ever considered the green, independent or socialist alliance?

    the idea of a vote is that it's a choice. current politicians want to make you have no choice at all i.e. for which of the three main collection of gits you hate least.

    You have a choice now fkin use it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by HARRY!!!:
    The pound is one of the strongest currencys in the world, maybe even beating the US dollar. 1.61 dollars to the pound.

    Firstly for your information the exchange rate has not been higher than $1.46 to the pound for over a year and on the 3rd when u made this statement it was only $1.41 which had risen 1 cent... but that's just me being picky.

    A strong currency is not a good thing it fcks up the sales for our industries when it comes to exporting, because it is cheaper to look elsewhere, I'd have to go into my loft and dig out my old business studies stuff to highlight my point, but I am sure there is a business or economics student who could inform you about currencies and export. It is a shame to have the greatest engineers in the world only to loose trade to inferior quality because of the strength of the pound.



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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    labour

    If the sky that we look upon
    should tumble and fall
    or the mountains should crumble in the sea
    I won't cry, I won't cry,
    No, I won't shed a tear
    Just as long as you stand
    Stand by me
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LUKA:
    Firstly for your information the exchange rate has not been higher than $1.46 to the pound for over a year and on the 3rd when u made this statement it was only $1.41 which had risen 1 cent... but that's just me being picky.

    A strong currency is not a good thing it fcks up the sales for our industries when it comes to exporting, because it is cheaper to look elsewhere, I'd have to go into my loft and dig out my old business studies stuff to highlight my point, but I am sure there is a business or economics student who could inform you about currencies and export. It is a shame to have the greatest engineers in the world only to loose trade to inferior quality because of the strength of the pound.


    I've done that in two other posts already. Not a third time, sorry.


    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Labour used to be left wing, but since Tony Blair took over they're as right wing as the Conservatives. I don't see why the two parties don't just join together, William Hague can learn that change isn't bad and er, Tony Blair... can learn 2 talk funny?

    I'm voting green.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle:
    I've done that in two other posts already. Not a third time, sorry.

    go on T-man you know you really really really want to <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">, besides maybe a 3rd time will drive it in a thick skull that keeps missing the point, and raising pointless arguments..

    I think it's because I'm clumsy
    I try not to talk to loud
    I think it's because I'm crazy
    I try not to act to proud
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LUKA:
    go on T-man you know you really really really want to <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">, besides maybe a 3rd time will drive it in a thick skull that keeps missing the point, and raising pointless arguments..


    No, i've gone braindead. (see other post elsewhere that's yet to be posted)

    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ~*LIBERTY*~:
    I'm voting green.

    Mmmm i reckon that cud b a gud idea, some things need changing in this world and country, that i think they mite b good at starting

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I would agree to scrap the pound because as mentioned above for trade reasons. But the euro is only worth about 65p to the pound so when the euro gets higher than the pound then britain should go in.

    I also would vote Labour because they have only had one term in office and need a longer period to fulfill their promises in they made in the election of 1997 dont they?

    Dont let things like the fuel crises (September2000) or the outbreak of foot and mouth disease (Febuary-? 2001)put you off voting Labour. The conservatives raised taxes year on year and they were in power from 1979 - 1997. Finally the Liberal Democrats would give lighter punishments to criminals and they just dont understand anything so dont either think about voting for them. My advice is Labour and well... i'll see after that. In 2005/06 will be the time i may suggest the Tory's depending on how Labour do in the next parliament.
    Please comment on what iv just typed thank you!!

    March 2001
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah...everyone has been so disappointed with Labour cos they "haven't lived up to expectations" etc. but they've only been in ONE TERM - the Tories had 18 years to fuck this country up. We NEED to vote Labour to help them finish the job and put this country back on track again (hmm.."again?" Has it ever been on track??)
    Also William Hague is a scary twat and I shudder to imagine him as PM. Not that he's got a chance!
    And yes, I am a member of the Labour Club at uni..such cool people there which is an added attraction!
    Meryn
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Meryn:
    Yeah...everyone has been so disappointed with Labour cos they "haven't lived up to expectations" etc. but they've only been in ONE TERM - the Tories had 18 years to fuck this country up. We NEED to vote Labour to help them finish the job and put this country back on track again (hmm.."again?" Has it ever been on track??)
    Also William Hague is a scary twat and I shudder to imagine him as PM. Not that he's got a chance!
    And yes, I am a member of the Labour Club at uni..such cool people there which is an added attraction!
    Meryn


    so ur sayin we should vote for the tories, right?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    whats the actual difference anyway?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle:

    so ur sayin we should vote for the tories, right?

    Ooops, sorry - sounded a right political nut there didn't I?! I'm not really - honest, I just get a bit overexcited: I only recently joined the Labour Club you see. I went to the AGM, met lots of cool people and what I expected to be a really mundane meeting turned into a meeting-pub-restaurant-club extravaganza and I ended up snogging one of the committee members, hee hee (we're now going out proper, like!)
    So there you go!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    remind me NOT to joint he labour club then.

    Look into these tired eyes. See something you might recognise.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Please don't be mean to me turtle, I'm only a newbie <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; I promise not to go off on one again, ok?!
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