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@ peace with Saddam.
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The peace movement is @ peace with…
... giving Iraq a victory this past weekend.
...feeling good about ignoring Saddam’s torture and murders while vilifying Bush.
...viewing as justice, Israeli citizens being blown apart by a Hamas suicide bomber, paid for by Saddam.
...ignoring France’s decades of undermining the oil for food and medicine program in order to sell equipment for the creation of weapons.
... starving children in Iraq – because of the French deals - Saddam doesn’t care why should they?
...not saying a word about Germany’s communications deals in Saddam’s missile making program.
...with the probability that Bin Laden will be passed capabilities or actual weapons from Saddam to kill Americans.
What the heck, they’re just flat out o.k. with Americans being murdered - creating an entire mythology about the causes of 911.
...taking down Tony Blair. Who does he think he is…trying to protect the UK at the expense of his career?
...all the propaganda opportunities for today’s most ruthless dictator - the many banners about Bush and Blair….
and none about Saddam or his torture.
… actions do speak louder than words.
The peace movement is @ peace with Saddam.
The peace movement is @ peace with…
... giving Iraq a victory this past weekend.
...feeling good about ignoring Saddam’s torture and murders while vilifying Bush.
...viewing as justice, Israeli citizens being blown apart by a Hamas suicide bomber, paid for by Saddam.
...ignoring France’s decades of undermining the oil for food and medicine program in order to sell equipment for the creation of weapons.
... starving children in Iraq – because of the French deals - Saddam doesn’t care why should they?
...not saying a word about Germany’s communications deals in Saddam’s missile making program.
...with the probability that Bin Laden will be passed capabilities or actual weapons from Saddam to kill Americans.
What the heck, they’re just flat out o.k. with Americans being murdered - creating an entire mythology about the causes of 911.
...taking down Tony Blair. Who does he think he is…trying to protect the UK at the expense of his career?
...all the propaganda opportunities for today’s most ruthless dictator - the many banners about Bush and Blair….
and none about Saddam or his torture.
… actions do speak louder than words.
The peace movement is @ peace with Saddam.
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Everyone that is against the war fully realises the nature of the Iraqi regime but would still rather not see a war.
Frankly there is no point protesting against Saddam, they are exercising their democratic right which is to protest aginst the policies of their govt.......
Would you pleases provide some proof for the allegations against France and Germany, I still haven't seen any.....
There's one toadborg...it was printed in left-wing intellectual NY Times. (According to my teacher.) If you have the time some time, go to Yahoo, just key in French Iraq oil deals. You'll get lot's of links. I've come across nastier claims about them selling things they knew could be used as weapons....
And Bush and his cronies are @ peace with tolerating the treatment inmates in Saudi and Turkish jails, which by itself counters all the other defamatory bollox you posted.
Interestingly enough, did anyone hear, as I did on the radio yesterday, that Unicef is sending 14,000 workers into Iraq to administer polio injections to children? Hope they take hard hats with them...
Yup. UC ,helmets with a French flair perhaps because the war is coming regardless of socialist/communist sponsored marches of the ignorant.:p
pnj, youve sunk fully into media whipped sheepism for sure!
Wonder how great you'd think the Spanish people are if not for the agreement of Aznar.
Also, if I knew at 16 that Saddam would use the peace movement as propaganda in his country, why wouldn't the adults I saw marching know that?
And obviously many at the march agreed, judging by the French flags and slogans seen around.
I'm glad you like my country pnj; I hope the fact that 90% of the population according to the latest opinion polls are against a war on Iraq won't change your mind.
As has been said so many times here and elsewhere, if you are so concerned with the welfare of these people then bombing them back to the stone age and wiping out what little remaining infrastructure they do have is a hypocrisy that will only make matters far worse for them.
But you keep believing that Bush is doing this for such oh so magnanimous reasoning, two years from now when US public focus has been diverted elsewhere, ill be so interested to see how many of the pro-war faction continue to monitor the condition of Iraq lives.
*hoists Spanish flag* I see your French flag and I raise you a Spanish one.
I'm taking French in school. We aren't allowed to speak of current events. I'm gonna ask the teacher if she's quoting Chirac by saying "shut up."
Do you believe that because you cannot catch all burglars, you should therefore not try to catch all muggers?
The first question I would ask is just who is calling someone a "burgler" or a "mugger." I would ask myself, is this the same person who supports "burglers" and "muggers" throughout the entire world with billions of dollars, as they continue to rob other people. Is this the same person who supported this burgler? It would seem rather obvious to me if this person had a problem with "burglers" or "muggers" on principle then we would not see this principle applied so inconsistently. That leads me to believe that such a problem has a problem with this "mugger" for a reason other than this person being a "mugger." Perhaps this "mugger" decided to go in business for himself, and mug others, rather than "mug" his population for America and Great Britain.
Then there is the question of national sovereignty. There is also a question of whether stopping this mugger and replacing him with an obediant mugger is worth the risk of increased terrorism and an expenditure of billions of dollars. I for one say - NO!
With regards to that link I do not understand how that can be interpreted as showing some kind of French immorality...
You do realise that trading with Iraq helps the people don't you, if France traded less with iraq then there would be more suffering, not less. They send a delegation to protect economic interests, so what, what is wrong with that????
Communism has good points in theory...never in practice. Even when it's called a Socialist Republic.
America gives more food aide worldwide than anyone by far so your wrong on that one. But I decided a long time ago than anyone defending Saddam is too silly to deal with.
That's why you will see a new Iraq. But feel free to march. Just know it's having zero affect on the world's biggest democracy. There's no reason why we shouldn't free those people. It's good for them and us. And if more oil floods the market...that's good too.
The US gives more aid than any other country but gives a smaller percent than many other nations and thus is not the most generous.....
Go and read some bible parables.............:rolleyes:
It was America which industrialized the USSR, who gave Stalin the weapons he needed to enslave half of Europe for almost half a century. It was Winston Churchill who partitioned not only Poland, but the European continent with Communism. America saved Communism time and time again throughout history.
ROFL. Yes, we have seen how America "liberated" the Native Americans and the American South right here at home now haven't we?
I for one did not support partitioning Europe with the American supported Soviet Union personally. I do not support the Morgenthau plan either.
America gives "food aid" to use food as a weapon of political control. I remember how America annihilated millions in America itself, and then used such "food" aid to exploit the wealth of millions of Americans right here in their own country for half a century.
I never defended Saddam. I have defended the concept of National Sovereignty however. I did not supply Saddam with biological and chemical weapons like the United States. I did not draw up battle plans for attacking Iran using such weapons for Saddam Hussein. That was the United States. That was the same country which supported Pol Pot and Josef Stalin.
A new Iraq under an American controlled puppet dictator just like the Egypt America does business with today. LOL, if only Saddam Hussein could be President General Musharraff right?
Yes, it is only a matter of time before the Department of Homeland Security and the Neocons bring back the Alien and Sedition Acts in the so-called "free world."
Sure there is.
A. You are not going to "free" those people at all. You are going to establish a military dictatorship in that country under General Tommy Franks and later on a puppet dictatorship like the one in Egypt.
B. There is this thing called the concept of "National Sovereignty."
C. It will increase terrorism
D. Which will increase spending in America.
E. Which will increase the power of Government.
F. Which will make America more like Iraq than Iraq like America.
Yes, this won't be America's first "Reconstruction" now will it?
Would you have a problem with Iraq establishing No-Fly Zones over America and creating the indepdendent nation of Alaska?
The pleasure I will realize as I walk the beach of my hometown is how much the war and liberation of Iraq will just eat at the sides of America's haters. Once again, we'll have more people who appreciate us and economically...it WIILL BE GOOD FOR AMERICA TOO AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.
But hey, the French will still have the respect of the marching Socialists.
Oh, I forgot, it is outrageous to think Saddam could ever acquire the capabilities to attack the US........
Quick, make sure youve got your plastic and duct tape! Be vigilent, Al Qaeda operatives are under your bed!!
Obviously Israel and Kuwait are assisting America in attacking Iraq? What is your objection precisely to Iraq attacking these nations.
Germany felt it was under attack by Poland. Actually Poland threatened to invade Germany dozens of times in 1939 and attacked the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia winning on both occassions. Do you object to the German invasion of Poland? Is so, on what grounds?
See Below.
This presupposes such weapons exist. Hans Blix himself has said he has no idea whether such weapons exist. It is impossible to prove a negative.
America is going to invade Iraq and establish a military dictatorship under Tommy Franks. How is that a "liberation." Why shouldn't the world hate America? Just look at how you conduct your foreign policy. Perhaps the world one day will respect you when you are not threatening to kill them.
Your economy is finished anyway. Your economy has been in long term decline for over 30 years.
The French do not subsidize American agriculture, the American transportation system or the American pharmaceutical industry. The United States does that. What is your problem with Socialism?
Depends on what they are trading in, doesn't it, Toadberg?
ROFL. The American economy grew at well under 2% last year and even contracted in the 4th Quarter.
OMG! LOL what economic journals are you reading again? Larry Kudlow, Dow 30,000?
The UK has one of the world's fastest growing economies? More like the fastest growing numbers of bankruptcies.
Yes Alan Greenspan has an fun machine called the printing press. He has rapidly inflated the amount of American currency in circulation last year. In fact, he is stuck in massively inflating the currency. The Fed is mortally afraid of a deflationary spiral hitting the United States.
True.
But that source gave me little indication of anything immoral going on.
I would still like to see some evidence of these wild claims of Franch/German immorality with regards trading with Iraq........
Many of the peace protesters were however holding up signs about the atrocities in Palestine!!! (Paid for by the USA)