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BillieTheBot
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News today;
One of Saddam's most trusted bodyguards Hamdi Mahmoud has defected to the Israeli intelligence service, Mossad. With him, he has taken plans and locations of key facilities that Saddam had denied existed. These are:
A chemical weapons factory underneath the centre of Bagdhad
A scud missile assembly area near Ramadi
2 underground bunkers on the outskirts of Bagdhad with stockpiles of biological weapons of an undisclosed type
5 chemical missile bunkers hidden beneath sand dunes in the desert.
And before you say "but we have all those things anyway" don't. We don't threaten to kill people with them, and the UK government doesn't have bio or chemical weaponry anyway.
One of Saddam's most trusted bodyguards Hamdi Mahmoud has defected to the Israeli intelligence service, Mossad. With him, he has taken plans and locations of key facilities that Saddam had denied existed. These are:
A chemical weapons factory underneath the centre of Bagdhad
A scud missile assembly area near Ramadi
2 underground bunkers on the outskirts of Bagdhad with stockpiles of biological weapons of an undisclosed type
5 chemical missile bunkers hidden beneath sand dunes in the desert.
And before you say "but we have all those things anyway" don't. We don't threaten to kill people with them, and the UK government doesn't have bio or chemical weaponry anyway.
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Although it once again seems like an all too convenient set up to me however much people might want war. Where were these defectors and why didnt they defect months ago when the tied was with Bush and co to a greater extent than it has been shown of late. Seems every time the public opinion levels drop to alarming levels we either have another shocking event happen somewhere (though more to do with the WoT than Iraq, but the media has cleverly muddled those two concepts), or else some amazing discovery about Iraq.
If these men truly defected with such smoking guns in hand then it strikes me as odd that they waited till now to do so.
Seems to me if this were as monumental as you seem to believe then it would be reported by all the major media.
Just another name pulled out of a hat from our archives of known past associates of Saddam no doubt.
Also, reflecting on what you first posted, I doubt any Iraqi official would ever defect to Israel under any circumstances. That sounds as suspect as the day is long.
The fact that he's defected to Mossad, master of every trick and action under the sun however illegal or wrong to look after Israel's interests, is also a little worrying.
Why do I get the feeling that you really want this war to happen Whowhere? You don't know any more than the rest of us (unless you have access to those ultra top-secret files the US doesn't want to show anyone) and yet have been vigorously voicing your support for war from the beginning, before any indication or proof whatsoever that Saddam might still possess WMDs.
Most of those people you call 'liberal wusses' are simply asking we don't launch yet another war of destruction against a sovereign nation without definitive proof that its leader has illegal WMDs and is a danger to us, and after obtaining subsequent approval from the UN. Is that too much to ask? Or is it that you just want a war to happen to see all that fabulous military hardware in action?
I to did a search and couldn't find anything on this guy as it happens, but the Express is quite a good paper in most respects so I don't think they'd make it up.
The lies that fueled the Vietnam war were carried by most major US (and indeed foreign) media regardless of the lack of veracity. In the end they exist to sell their stories and the more sensational the headline, the better the sales.
But i guess since Bush can do that to suit whatever he wants to do against whomever he wishes, feel free to follow suit.
i am pissed off with hearing all day long about him being connected to terrorism. my wife and her friends BELIEVE the guy is a terrorist. when i ask them about it they can say no more than it was on the telly. how many people are walking around believing this crap? when did this guy ever...ever threaten western interests? never. he wants fame and riches and glory. he wants to build and build. he wants to sell oil and invest, squander, spend, stash, waste the money.
sound familiar?
All I can say is that you need to tell your wife to look at other sources of info that arent so compliant to the state's agenda. I too am sick of the lies and revisionism that our governments (whom our societies seem to believe of defenders of all the good and just) are concocting to blind the public to true historical facts, distinctions between terrorism and despotism/dictatorship, the level of threat that West is actually facing (considerably less than is being portrayed for very transparent political reasons), and from where the threats we actually do face are originating (one need only look as far as our respective capitols and those we put in office in the first place).
In the case of the last point though, Id have to preface that by saying "at least those you put in office in the UK" since Bush effectively rigged and stole the US election.
It only happened/worked because it was such a close run thing.
But whats done is done and we can only pray that he cocks things up so badly that he is ousted quick like daddy was.
Would you like to start with Hamas? For whom he pays a dividend to the family of deceased Suicide Bombers...
Remember, to many in the Islamic world, those suicider bombers are resistance fighters not terrorists. Easy for us to sit comfotably in the West and proscribe who is or isnt a terrorist by whatever convenient twist of rhetorical definition happens to be the flavour of the day. Such fluid definitions always have a way of pointing a finger back at our own nations who funded groups which by the same definitions could be renamed terrorists (i.e. Contras, Shining Path, Mujahadeen, etc...)
Notwithstanding, one could argue that its only fair since it was reported last week that for quite some time now the Bush administration has had computer hackers at work conducting cyber attacks on Iraq's computer networks, and war hasnt even been sanctioned yet either by our Congress or by the international community.
So ask yourself, who is acting as the rogue nation in the eyes of the world? We're soon to be ranked up there with the best of them if Bush keeps this up.
Yadda, yadda, yadda...
Of course, you conveniently neglect to speak of the 55,000 overseas military ballots that you wanker Demo's refused to count because they had no post mark, when the reality is, any overseas military personel can write on a cereal box top, and it will be sent to the addressee... SANS POSTAGE, SANS POSTMARK.
Reality is a bit inconvenient to your propaganda, isn't it?
Dangling the carrot in front of a jackass in NO way encourages a response, now does it?
Israel kills thousands in tank, rocket, and infantry attacks and the Plaestianinas fight back with whatever they can cobble together. So long as Israel, which is the primary catylist for escalation in the conflict, refuse to honour its UN obligations (which all the war lovers here seem to dismiss whilst insisting Iraq honour its obligations) and continues to turn the Palestinian territories into new versions of the Warsaw ghetto (or dar it be said, new versions of the death camps) then how can anyone expect the Palestinians (who are essentially be dehumanised) not to fight back?
You would if it were your home, or neighborhood, or town being attacked almost daily. I can be fairly sure our vociferous resident militants would also fight back as well.
Unless you atre claiming that bush pulled this stunts in all the other states?
Yes, he stole the election but he couldn't have done if it wasn't already a close run thing.
I think you will find he did not steal the election. He won within the constraints of the US Constitution.
Our Constitution doesn't mean much around here. Except that it was probably a right wing Bush plot also. This has been in the works since 1776.
No carrot was dangled in front of our eyes... No 72 virgins, no rewards to our families... just acceptance of responsibilities, and duty, something that you likely are unacquainted with. Ever work a job, other than being on the bureaucratic dole?
Just to make it perfectly clear... I have more respect for the terrorist bombers than I have for the likes of you. At least they put their lives behind their mouths...
You are going to need to put some real effort into making the stretch of comparing the terrorist bombers who target non-combatants to soldiers and Marines who served in Vietnam. As much as you would like to believe so, we did not turn ourselves into bi-ped Claymores. Targeting civilians? Was the province of another of your heroes... uncle Ho.
But then, accuracy is simply an inconvenience to you, isn't it?
The facts about Vietnam and the lies are all a matter of record, but you keep right on believing it was about duty and honour and our protection if it helps you sleep at night.