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Oh how liberal we are.........

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
A higher proportion of UK citizens believe that homosexuality is sometimes wrong than belive there is nothing wrong with at all and this makes us a liberal society?

Surely this assumption is incorrect?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Homosexuality is not more wrong than being right-handed instead of left-handed, preferring pork roast to beef roast or having 2 sugars with your tea instead of none.

    Anyone who thinks there is something wrong at all with homosexuality needs their head examined, to put it very mildly. I’d be very sad to learn a majority of people in this country think that way.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dont get me started on those dirty lefties Aladdin....They are purely evil...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the only thing wrong with this thread so far is alladin bringing meat into it !
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    Anyone who thinks there is something wrong at all with homosexuality needs their head examined, to put it very mildly.

    Really? To play Devil's Advocate somewhat:

    What if I opine that homosexuality is a waste of reproductive resources and hence a bad thing? You may disagree with that, but I think you must concede that it is a fairly rationaly thing to say, not worthy of a head examination. To give a second example, how about the opinion that certain sexually transmitted diseases spread more easily through the homosexual (or bisexual) community, and hence homosexual practices pose a health risk, and are wrong? Again, that reasoning isn't totally off the wall, even though it isn't rock solid. If anything, the premises are the things in doubt, not the reasoning.

    You see my point?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If there had been a nuclear holocaust and there were two men and a woman left on earth, I might agree with you on the basis of ensuring the perpetuation of the human species. But mankind is in no danger of becoming extinct due to lack of numbers so that is an unlikely scenario.

    At the end of the day it boils down to personal choice and tolerance. One of the most fundamental human rights must be the right to do as one pleases so long as we do not harm others. Sexual orientation is nobody's concern but your own's. I might personally dislike what others enjoy- I find homosexual acts very unappealing for myself, as I do eating spinach- but that doesn't give me the right to classify it as 'wrong' and I won't lecture, criticise or persecute others for indulging in same-sex acts or eating green smelly leaves.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    At the end of the day it boils down to personal choice and tolerance. One of the most fundamental human rights must be the right to do as one pleases so long as we do not harm others. Sexual orientation is nobody's concern but your own's.

    Unless there are issues of, say, public health. That was the reason for my choice of second example.

    Also, I might be pinnickity and ask for a justification of your "fundamental human right."

    My point was not so much to argue for or against homosexuality as to demonstrate that not all anti-homosexual opinion is as irrational and off-the-wall as one might think.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair enough. I won't put everyone in the same bag and admit that there are people out there who might disagree with homosexuality for different reasons- so my 'everyone who disapproves should have their head examined' might be unfair. But you have to admit that the immense majority of people who think homosexuality is wrong think so because they are nothing more than intolerant bigots who should know better and ought to live and let live.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wonder what percentage doesn't care. Not that this isn't a good concept. My feelings are good...more girls for me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MacKenZie
    Really? To play Devil's Advocate somewhat

    Sorry to go off topic with my ignorance but what does that phrase mean? Sorry its something i've always wondered.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Jon_UK


    Sorry to go off topic with my ignorance but what does that phrase mean? Sorry its something i've always wondered.

    One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MacKenZie
    What if I opine that homosexuality is a waste of reproductive resources and hence a bad thing?
    I think you're a waste of reproductive resources... ;)

    Seriously, there are lots of WORRs in the world ('Men Only' mag, for example) and we could do with a few more, particularly in the third world (they seem to prefer WARs (wrack and ruin) as a means of population control at the mo).

    With regard to attitudes to homsexuality, there's an interesting thread on the Digital Spy forums about a group called TATA who have apparently released a pop video featuring two young women making out. At least one person who would react very differently had it been two young men is crestfallen not to have seen it yet and not, I think, so that he can condemn with a sense of perspective :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    Homosexuality is not more wrong than being right-handed instead of left-handed, preferring pork roast to beef roast or having 2 sugars with your tea instead of none.

    That was what I tried to prove in, saying that I didn't like nudity in the "Sex - Sexy" thread.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Uncle Joe,

    The group is called TATU and the video is average at best :(

    Its completely understandable for a man to be repulsed by male homosexual sex and turned on by female homosexual sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Balddog, what about the reverse, then? Did you see that 'Shoreditch Tw*t' episode of Ch.4's Comedy Lab, where womem claimed to find the idea of men humping each other to be turn-on? Why is that obviously satire? I have some thoughts about it, but I'll wait to hear some other views first.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I didnt see that episode im afraid..

    You are right though, ive not met many women who were turned on by male porn...but then women are very different creatures to men. Men are driven far more by visuals than women when it comes to porn.
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