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If 'Dubya' wishes to eradicate the world of terrorism....
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then how can he allow Irish-Americans to fund the Provisional (and perhaps) the Real IRA?
Bush is a buffoon and is the most incompetent US President in my lifetime!! Bring back Ronnie!!
Bush is a buffoon and is the most incompetent US President in my lifetime!! Bring back Ronnie!!
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It's called "liberty". Idiots can do what they like with their money. If they're caught breaking the law, they can lose their money and go to jail. How can the Prime Minister allow you to make your idiotic comments?
A war against terror must be total or non-existent. If Dubya wants to eradicate terrorist organisations he must atttempt to dismantle the Provisional and Real Irish Republican Armies. Isn't funding terrorist organisations against the law? If some Irish-American can fund the IRA then why can't a Muslim in the USA fund Al-Qaeda? Fair is fair, no.......
Besides, if an American is free to do what they wish with their money (which is their property, after all
Although I'm sure the US doesn't openly condone funding the IRA etc, it is still a real problem and Bush should probably do something about the problems in his own backyard before trying to set the rest of the world to rights.
(and not the usual bullshit :rolleyes: )
True, but what makes you think you get to be the one to decide what they are?
So, now you are an expert on warfare? "must be total or non-existent"? Mind if we NUKE Belfast? It is in fact illegal to fund organizations listed as terrorist organizations...however, most fund-raisers in the US claim to be raising funds for the legal party, not for the Tangos.
You can buy Cigars from Cuba. Not cheap, but legal. Importing them from Cuba is illegal. Though the cigars from Honduras are a hell of a lot better. As for pot, it is illegal. Maybe you should reread my post.
He speaks perfect sense (which came as a pleasant surprise;)) and it is an issue that has come up on here a couple of times before, yet is never resolved. Bush is showing blatent hypocrisy, and I think Blair should bring it up with him. But, of course, he won't.
OK, so if have freedom, then why can't I be free to stab the first person I see in the street with a knife? I'm free, no..:rolleyes:...
The ONLY limit to one's freedom must be when those freedoms conflict with the freedoms of others. EVERY old dimwit knows that!!!!
As long as your government recognizes the political arm of the IRA as a legitimate party, the fund raisers have their way of raising money. I expect that is why Blair won't mention it....not to mention that you lot wouldn't take too kindly to American soldiers digging the terrorists out from among you.
OK, so don't pay taxes....
onenatcons did seem to ignore that.. Point is, by onenatcons's words not attacking the IRA is bad. However again by onenatcons's waords about Bush being a warmonger for attacking islamic extremists, attacking the IRA would also be bad..
Which statement applies to onenatcons's position:
1. Bush is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't apply here
2. onenatcons does not have a consistant position, nor can he make up his mind..
Must be a DubYa in Bali.... Must be a DubYa in the Philippines...
Must be a Dubya in S Korea.
If the Russians go after the terrorists, might even be a Dubya in Russia..
I could go on and on listing more attacks and more Nations responding to terrorism.
So there seems to be a lil Dubya in many people, especially after the killing reaches their home.. I guess the question becomes, how many must die before there's a little Dubya in you?
An arrest? Hmmm must be that warmonger Dubya again...
If you wish to live life wearing blinders, a blindfold and in the osterich position, head in hole in sand and your arse showing... Expect others to notice...
After the war on terrorism is over, I'm sure those that are against it will be the first to take advantage of the peace, stability and safety offered...
Probably by taking a nice safe Holiday while complaining... :rolleyes:
Hmmm... that had me wondering, too.
Was that an open invitation for US forces to come to the UK and settle things down?
Think I hear the Marine recruiters gearing up...
BTW, I guess there's been a little Dubya in the British PM for some time now. Explains why he felt able to dispense with Peter Mandelson's services (ooh, behave, now...:D )
Taxes..
Bullshit.
IF Dubya reckons that terrorism is bad, then ALL terrorism must apply. Not those that just directly threaten the US.
Dearie, his firs priority is the US.
Perhaps a little Danish girl, but not at all a naive Danish girl
Now speaking of naive..........
Our little Danish girl's words do seem to apply, plus beings some many here are against Bush attacking those that attacked his Country....
Wouldn't they be very angry if Bush attacked their specific terrorists also??
My oh my can you read the posts here if a Cruise missile blew up an IRA HQ..
He said all terrorists, plus those that harbor them and support them.. Give him time, obviously the list is quite long...
First, you fault him for wanting to attack some, now you fault him for not immediately attacking all..
Which is it?? :rolleyes:
A little drastic, to be sure.
However...
Where should we set up the fire base? Londonderry? or London?
Problem is... we would have to bring along our own recreation. Not as much a fun place as that other place we partied...
Another urban myth... :rolleyes: and proof to my assertion that both Londonderry and London are rather boring places to be stuck. So boring, the indigs live their lives in fantasy, rather than their mind-numbing reality. The quoted post would give evidence of such...
*wonders if "uncle joe" has ever sought medical/chemical help for his delusional state*
The taking of NVA or VC (or even civilian ears) as "trophies" in Vietnam - much less the wearing of same as an "ornament" - simply was not tolerated, much less accepted. To have done so would have Articled your sorry ass to the brig for a long damned time. While there may have been isolated occurances, it was NOT common or accepted behavior.
That fucking simple.
All of your wishing and hoping and praying that your individual delusions might be real, simply does not make it so. It simply demonstrates a pathetic inability to deal with reality...
{edit} You really should get some help concerning your delusions.
http://members.aol.com/philliprcoleman/pc17.htm
"Nearing the end of the war the "body count" became the measure for mission success or failure. Incidents like My Lai revealed the killing had gotten out of hand. Photographs of GI's pridefully wearing necklaces of human ears or other body parts made their way into the international press. Some soldiers found targets in anything that moved... resulting in thousands of Americans injured or killed by 'friendly fire'. Unrestrained racism leads to unrestrained killing."
(interesting homepage, btw)
Anyway relax, I'm only funnin' witcha, in the same spirit you and reverse like to extend to us 'parasites'. Go on, tell us more about "that other place we partied..."
The man responsible for my lai went to jail..
BTW The islamic radicals say cease to exist..
Yes, that is what a sheep straddling a fence looks like. It would make a great avatar for you..
As clearly as can be stated:
Your claim that wearing ears taken from Vietnamese was commonplace in Vietnam is an URBAN MYTH, joyfully repeated by those who wish it were so.
In the years from 1970 through 1972 - while I was in country - I did not once witness ANYONE wearing (or possessing) an ear as a trophy. NOT ONE DAMNED TIME.
I have never spoken to another vet who stated that he had either taken an ear, or had witnessed the same.
While it MAY have happened, I did not witness it. I was obviously not in every corner of the country on every day through out the US involvement, so I cannot state that it never happened. If it HAD happened, the person wearing the ear would have been court martialled, and imprisoned. Just as happened concerning the incident at My Lai. Such behavior was NOT accepted, NOT tolerated, NOT allowed.
There is no "distance traveled", but a statement of truth.
The ONLY equivocation comes from your corner.
Phill Coleman has his own agenda, and his own axe to grind. Might take his motivation into consideration before accepting anything/everything he utters as "gospel".
Why do you not regale us with your experiences in Vietnam during that timeframe?
If such pictures exist - from the infamous "international press"? Post them. Otherwise? Kindly zip your sewer.
You have a hard time with basic thoughts, don't you?
If the only restriction on your freedom is that which conflicts with others' freedom, then you are free to not pay taxes. Try it and see how free you are.
By the way, I mentioned "liberty", not freedom. They aren't exactly the same thing.
Why? Because onenatcons says so?
Well, that page doesn't have an agenda, does it?
Thousands of "blue on blue"? Bullshit. Are all your sources this reliable, Uncle Joe?
uncle joe,
Did you ever try thinking about that statement?
Lets apply some thought..
Wouldn't you agree that Vietnam's climate is rather hot and humid.
So next summer, get a pigs ear or "other body parts" and wear it as a necklace.. Even in the cooler climate of the UK, it will decay, rot, stink and attract flies.
Didn't you even pause for a minute and think about the stench of rotting flesh.. No you did not think at all, some one publishes that on the web, you swallow it, hook, line and sinker...
I say a lot in jest, but I am quite serious here, think when you read such drivel. Don't believe it because you read it, think about what you read. Use your mind. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
BTW, do not put words in my mouth. I never called you or any one else a parasite. Parasites are hard to trick and by what I just saw, they aren't as guillible as you.
Nor have I used the phrase "that other place we partied..."
However I did say that a lack of latin has nothing to do with your lack of a floppy green cover. Its a physical and mental lacking, a lack of manstuff. SAS does not require latin and they will never see you either..
I can elaborate if you wish, but I am sure even you get what I am saying..