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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In addition, there's a big difference between a religious institution, and something that is public that just happens to be run by someone with particular religious views.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    CM Punk wrote: »
    True but that's why I said as a test case. And we all know how far the religious views of some people get them when they go up against gays (or at least gay visitors to their B&B).

    I think you've just revealed far more about your opinion there than you probably wanted to. I think that's an incredibly homophobic way of putting something. A Freudian slip.

    Practising religion in a bone fide place of worship (e.g. church, temple, synagogue) is a protected characteristic. Saying someone is not allowed in your shop/hotel/donkey sanctuary because of a claimed religious belief is not a protected characteristic.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It wouldn't have said anything about my 'opinion' - purely because I don't have one. I use labels for lots of different types of people, myself included.

    Again that's why I said it would be a 'test' case.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't think the test case would get to court because the bill pretty explicitly protects religious institutions right to decline ceremonies if they want to.
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    Annaarrr!!Annaarrr!! Posts: 876 Part of The Mix Family
    So, I'm glad the bill has been passed, but is everyone's problem the fact that gay people can be turned away in churches and stuff?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm fine with those with religious convictions to have the right not to marry me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote: »
    I think it probably is homophobic

    Unfortunately you missed me edit my typo, he was saying it was homophobic to say gay love was the same as straight love (I inserted a "not")
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    **helen****helen** Deactivated Posts: 9,235 Supreme Poster
    Just wanted to bump this thread because of this news -

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/07/17/breaking-equal-marriage-bill-for-england-and-wales-given-royal-assent-and-is-now-law/

    :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whoop whoop :yippe:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am so happy about this! :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whoop!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    About time!

    So when can we start just calling it all 'marriage'?
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    Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    Instead of "gay marriage" or "same sex marriage" the news should simply be reporting it as "sex-agnostic marriage".
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I will admit, although it may be a different debate, it's a shame CP wasn't either extended to heterosexual people / scrapped since everyone can now have a civil wedding.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    CP will be an issue that rumbles on and on. It's still against the equality act because straight people can't have a CP.

    It should have been binned as the ludicrous fudge it was.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Arctic Roll wrote: »
    It's still against the equality act because straight people can't have a CP.

    Yes, that's what I figured. Although straight is not a protected characteristic so people make less noise or something. :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wonder if that means equality only applies if you're a 'protected' section of society. Damn...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VG1bj4Lj1Q
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Glenn Quagmire wrote: »
    I wonder if that means equality only applies if you're a 'protected' section of society. Damn...

    Under the equality act there are 9 protected characteristics.

    Age

    Where this is referred to, it refers to a person belonging to a particular age (e.g. 32 year olds) or range of ages (e.g. 18 - 30 year olds).

    Disability

    A person has a disability if s/he has a physical or mental impairment which has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on that person's ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.

    Gender reassignment

    The process of transitioning from one gender to another.

    Marriage and civil partnership

    Marriage is defined as a 'union between a man and a woman'. Same-sex couples can have their relationships legally recognised as 'civil partnerships'. Civil partners must be treated the same as married couples on a wide range of legal matters.

    Pregnancy and maternity

    Pregnancy is the condition of being pregnant or expecting a baby. Maternity refers to the period after the birth, and is linked to maternity leave in the employment context. In the non-work context, protection against maternity discrimination is for 26 weeks after giving birth, and this includes treating a woman unfavourably because she is breastfeeding.

    Race

    Refers to the protected characteristic of Race. It refers to a group of people defined by their race, colour, and nationality (including citizenship) ethnic or national origins.

    Religion and belief

    Religion has the meaning usually given to it but belief includes religious and philosophical beliefs including lack of belief (e.g. Atheism). Generally, a belief should affect your life choices or the way you live for it to be included in the definition.

    Sex

    A man or a woman.

    Sexual orientation

    Whether a person's sexual attraction is towards their own sex, the opposite sex or to both sexes.


    I'd be extremely interested to meet the person that isn't covered by at least one of those nine.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    piccolo wrote: »
    Although straight is not a protected characteristic so people make less noise or something. :rolleyes:

    Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic, and the Equality Act tidied things up by making it clear it refers to any gender-related sexual orientation (no, Glenn Quagmire, shagging sheep is not a protected characteristic).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Arctic Roll wrote: »
    Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic, and the Equality Act tidied things up by making it clear it refers to any gender-related sexual orientation (no, Glenn Quagmire, shagging sheep is not a protected characteristic).

    Fair point, my bad!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Arctic Roll wrote: »
    Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic, and the Equality Act tidied things up by making it clear it refers to any gender-related sexual orientation (no, Glenn Quagmire, shagging sheep is not a protected characteristic).

    Ah yeah, 'witty' comments about the Welsh are always excluded! My bad as well....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The world isn't always black and white
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    She's top and into everything :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    G-Raffe wrote: »
    The world isn't always black and white

    Not when you've got access to Photoshop......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whowhere wrote: »
    Not when you've got access to Photoshop......

    I'm a big fan of ms paint :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    CM Punk wrote: »
    It wouldn't have said anything about my 'opinion' - purely because I don't have one. I use labels for lots of different types of people, myself included.

    Again that's why I said it would be a 'test' case.

    I hate to say "I told you so"....

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gay-dads-sue-church-england-2119665
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Equality only when it's the popular choice. If the CoE wants the right to refuse them what business is it of theirs to stifle a particular church's view when other churches will happily accept them?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some homosexuals are CofE. Why should they go to MCC or URC? CofE is the ONLY church written into the law.
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