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Moving On

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
I know time will heal but is there any way of making it heal a bit quicker?

I thought I was moving on. Was out dating, having a good time, people finding me attractive. Baby steps but getting there. But rapidly coming to conclusion that I'm not.

There's someone who thinks I'm brilliant and, unless I'm very much mistaken, she's probably in love with me. The problem is that she's not my ex, so I don't want her. Which is a shame as the sex is great.

There's a friend who I've flirted with a fair bit and had plenty of flirting back. I was looking at moving from friendship to maybe having some benefits, nothing more serious, and when she decided not to I was a lot more hurt than I expected. She looks a fair bit like my ex. Some serious transference there I'd say.

I've accepted its over and that I'm pining over selective memories not reality. But I still love her. And I don't want to. If I didn't have to discuss our daughter I would never speak to her again. Nor her family- all smiles to my face and pushing to get me out of my house to realise capital behind my back.

I'm just so frustrated with myself. I have the emotional intelligence to know what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. But not enough to stop it. I don't want to love someone who has rejected me because it's getting in the way of moving on.

I suppose I'm relying on running away to London actually working.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It will take a long time. And I think you're never completely over anyone. You were with her for a fucking age. So you can reasonably expect getting over her to the point og being able to move forward to take a fucking age. New job, new house I think will help. You'll not been sleeping under the walllpaper she picked, on the sofa you chose together. None of that shit. And you'll be having bbq with lesbians damn near weekly.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You were together forever. You loved her enough to marry her, and you loved her enough to have a child with her. That doesn't just vanish overnight. It would be weirder if you were already over her, IMO.

    In my experience, a major love in your life can only be replaced by another major love in your life. Dating and flings and FWB can't touch it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I was worried you would say something like that Kaff. It isn't that I want a fling to replace her, I don't really want anyone to right now. Maybe that's part of the problem, but meh.

    I'm hoping the change of scenery will help, but really not sure. Suppose I'm committed to it now, at least for a while.

    I know I'm wanting to rush things. I don't want to be feeling like this so I just want to hurry up and not feel like this. Very frustrating that it isn't happening, even though I know it will take a long time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think the change of scenery will definitely help. You're doing something for you, something that is removed from your old life. Plus the lesbian bbqs sound pretty damn good!

    Don't think of it as running away, even if it is. Think of it as a new adventure that you are able to make because you have the freedom now. Let the rest work itself out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kaff wrote: »
    Plus the lesbian bbqs sound pretty damn good!


    They totally are. Omnomnom. Burgers, hotdogs, corn on the cob, prawns, ribs, steak, omnomnomnomnom.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    it aint been that long. Come on man! give yourself a chance
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    it aint been that long. Come on man! give yourself a chance

    Yeah, I know it hasn't. Guess I'm impatient to stop feeling like shit.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    big hugs kermit. Im really sorry youre still feeling crap. Its not fair and you didnt deserve all this to happen to you.
    Noone else will ever be her, but one day someone will be even better.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's completely understandable but maybe you should take a step back and see how well you've done so far. Getting that new job in London is a huge and positive step. So is socialising, getting out there and dating; even if it doesn't amount to anything serious just yet. This isn't meant to be patronising but I have a serious amount of respect for you. No one expects you to be 'over' anything, just as long as you realise there are positive experiences waiting around the corner for you and that you will smile again and mean it. We're all rooting for you here matey :wave:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have always harboured similar beliefs to Kaff. You don't "get over" someone you've loved, not really.

    Moving on is a different thing, and physically moving will be part of that. She will always be part of your life, though, because of SodBaby. It's a complicated set of circumstances and emotions to manage.

    Be nice to yourself!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To echo what's already been said and add that "moving on" is a back and forth process - you'll think you're getting there, then at some point you take a few steps back. It's not like you're back at square 1, it's only a shuffle and a hop back!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you DO get over people youve loved. Ive been in 3 long term relationships. I loved my first boyfriend with all my heart. I loved my husband in a different way. I love my partner now more than ive ever loved anyone.

    My mum has been married 3 times and been with her partner now 11 years and loves the very bones of him, yet she also loved my ex stepdad to pieces, and her 9 year relationship with my dad was passionate and loving before he turned violent. She doesnt love any of her exes anymore, even if she wishes them well, and my ex stepdad in particular who left *her* rather than the other way round, it took her a few years to get over him properly, although she was over the worst within a year or two.

    You get over people. It can take time. There is no point being impatient because it wont work. Just make sure youre gentle with other girls hearts while you still hold a candle for your ex x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    There's someone who thinks I'm brilliant and, unless I'm very much mistaken, she's probably in love with me. The problem is that she's not my ex, so I don't want her. Which is a shame as the sex is great.

    I don't know you personally AR but i've read some of your posts and i was kind of surprised to read this bit. If some randomer came on here and said "There's this girl, I'm having sex with her despite the fact I don't really want her, but i think she's in love with me" you'd probably tell him he's a **** who's using her and that he should cut her loose....I think? Correct me if I'm wrong :)
    I'm just so frustrated with myself. I have the emotional intelligence to know what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. But not enough to stop it. I don't want to love someone who has rejected me because it's getting in the way of moving on.

    This is human nature. The heart wants what the heart wants whether we can have it or not. In fact not having it makes you want it more. Doesn't matter how emotionally intelligent you are, you can't help what you feel and you can't tell yourself not to feel it....the years ive wasted chasing after the wrong girls is testament to that :banghead:

    I guess what i'm saying is that getting over someone/something is a mental process, not a physical one. Sure, getting out there and meeting new girls will probably help, but all the dating/sex in the world isn't going to stop you from thinking about somebody...is it?

    Maybe focussing a bit more on healing yourself and not on getting into new relationships to replace the one you've lost is something worth thinking about?

    Good luck :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My situation is different to yours, but it's been a year and a half and I still hear myself say "__, I love you" at least once every day. a couple of times a month I scream "I hate you for leaving me ___". Thankfully I've stopped looking for a duplicate of them on dating sites, I've at least accepted that isn't going to happen.

    When you work out how to get over it, share?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    youve got to take into account its not just the person you lost, you need to come to terms with what she represented to you. Your whole secure future as you thought you knew it has changed. Sometimes it might not even be the fact its her that hurts
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Neddy wrote: »
    I don't know you personally AR but i've read some of your posts and i was kind of surprised to read this bit. If some randomer came on here and said "There's this girl, I'm having sex with her despite the fact I don't really want her, but i think she's in love with me" you'd probably tell him he's a **** who's using her and that he should cut her loose....I think? Correct me if I'm wrong :)

    Depends. I've been honest from the word go that I don't want to commit, and the sex is good, so meh. Maybe I am being a bit of a twat.
    youve got to take into account its not just the person you lost, you need to come to terms with what she represented to you. Your whole secure future as you thought you knew it has changed. Sometimes it might not even be the fact its her that hurts

    Yeah, I suppose that's it. I've gone from being stable and settled in my house to, what? 30 and looking at moving into a houseshare 300 miles from my daughter because I can't bear to stay in the north east any longer.

    Was talking with a friend today about finding hobbies and the depressing realisation is that I don't have the energy or inclination to really do anything.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    anything more than treading water at this stage is brilliant, let alone swimming, which you ARE doing. Youre doing ALL the right things. Feeling happy about it all will come later on down the line.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Maybe I am being a bit of a twat.
    No, in writing about it in that way you were deliberately making yourself out to be a twat - not quite the same thing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As an off the beaten track suggestion, looking into meditation could be helpful. You don't even need to do it for hours, just finding 5-10 minutes a day.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think that a lot of the discussion about whether you can or can't get over someone, boils down to semantics and what you mean. I personally believe that getting over someone and moving on are the same thing. No matter how hard someone hurts you, or what they do, you still have the memories of any good times you had together. In the OPs case he has a daughter, she is a loud and amusing child, no doubt causing masses of panic and trouble in that way that children manage to find endearing. You cant change what happened or what you did in life, only what you will do. Things like this don't solve themselves over night and will take a while, at that point you will be able to move on and get over the person (ie not let things bother you as much). However you will never be able change the feelings you had at a particular time because they have already happened and are in the past.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The thing that really sticks in my throat is that she's happier now. Am I so bad? Was I so terrible to be with?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No, the rational part of you wants her to be ok. But it still sucks donkey dick that she is.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There will be things now that make her happier and things that are not as good.

    When you finish with someone, more often than not both people are as lovely as when they got together, but theyve lost their bond. It doesnt make you bad or worthless. Its time for you to spend time on yourself and to eventually build that bond with someone who DOES appreciate you and the wonderful things you have to offer.
    Dont define yourself by what she thought of the relationship
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I guess this answers the question to "what happens if I stop taking the happy pills BECAUSE I COMPLETELY HATE THEM?".

    Yes, I can't follow my own advice.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Did you discuss stopping the pills with your doctor?

    I don't know enough about pills, and I'm certainly not a doctor, so this may be completely off the mark, but my line manager takes pills for anxiety that's caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, and those pills replace that chemical. It isn't something he can fix biologically, so he's accepted that he needs to take them if he wants to remain positive.

    Why do you hate the pills?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just spoke to Sodbaby on the phone and she sang songs to me and said she loved me. This has broken my heart that little bit more.

    I really need a cuddle :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hugs available at the weekend
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just spoke to Sodbaby on the phone and she sang songs to me and said she loved me. This has broken my heart that little bit more.

    That is heartbreaking. I've got two little ones and I can't imagine how hard this must be for you. Having kids makes a painful break-up excruciating. But here comes the cliché... at least you have that amazing little person to hang on to. Yes, there may be some distance but you will always be her dad. Just try to keep that bond and, when you do start feeling better about your ex, you'll be able to be a happy dad to her again.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ex will find someone else, someone better. Rosie will love him too and they'll all live together as one happy family. I'll get an access weekend if I'm really lucky while some other man gets to raise my daughter.

    It'll all be brilliant happy families. I'll be an inconvenience. I'll be discarded. It's what happens.

    Remind me what I'm supposed to be hanging on to?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For now, curry tomorrow night.
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