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Music videos going too far (may be triggering)
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I know it's unusual to have a trigger warning on a thread outside Health and Wellbeing, but there will probably be things discussed here that are difficult to read. I will not be including links to these videos.
When it first came out, I found the video of Christina Aguilera's Beautiful really shocking because of its depiction of eating disorders.
Yesterday, I was in the Common Room when music TV was on and saw the (presumably censored for TV) video for P!nk's Fucking Perfect. I don't particularly want to find out what they cut out, it was particularly awful, showing self-harm and an eating disorder.
What I don't understand is why it's seen as acceptable to show these things with no warning whatsoever.
Is it going too far, or do music videos have artistic license to do whatever they want?
When it first came out, I found the video of Christina Aguilera's Beautiful really shocking because of its depiction of eating disorders.
Yesterday, I was in the Common Room when music TV was on and saw the (presumably censored for TV) video for P!nk's Fucking Perfect. I don't particularly want to find out what they cut out, it was particularly awful, showing self-harm and an eating disorder.
What I don't understand is why it's seen as acceptable to show these things with no warning whatsoever.
Is it going too far, or do music videos have artistic license to do whatever they want?
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Might be a really good one for askTheSite.
I think you can depict SH without having to make it so graphic. (Things that spring to mind are music videos by Linkin Park and Between The Trees)
I really think it should have a warning, or be an 18 on youtube... I mean Ce Lo Green Fuck You is an 18 on youtube!! The whole censoring thing on there is balls.
i was heavily triggered. we'll say no more. it shouldn't be allowed. especailly by an artist who as i understand it has a huge following of young impressionable girls.
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my brother works at the NIA sometimes and he was there when pink was playing and he said it was ALL young girls with their mums.
WHEN I WAS A GIRL, it was the likes of Morrissey and his understanding of teenage angst and songs about adolescent pain that actually got me through my teenage years
It would be a crying shame, if all art, music, drama, films, had to constantly be censored to avoid accidently triggering or upsetting people.
Some things you see in day to day life WILL be triggering. There may be certain music that triggers unwanted emotions in me, and some films ive just had to turn off because i found it upsetting. Thats just life.
Some people may be upset by that video, others may find it helpful.
However, I think that this is different....
Likewise I don't believe a young girl would sit watching that and end up hurting herself because of it, she would obviously have much deeper lying issues that would have been brought to the surface by some other song/film/tv show anyway.
By all means though there should be a warning attached to it warning people of the graphic images.
On a side note, the song actually has a pretty positive message and is probably the only Pink song I have ever liked
I agree. Surely showing any alcohol on TV runs the risk of triggering a recovering alcoholic, for example? And presumably part of the recovery process is learning to be able to live with the fact that you're going to be surrounded by such images in the media and elsewhere?
That's not to say the music industry doesn't bear any responsibility. I'm not a fan of the radio-friendly edits of songs off really explicit albums, for example. Put the original out there, and let the censors decide when it is allowed to be played. The only reason for these edits is to get a wider and younger audience for the music. Kinda ruins any artistic credibility though, since you obviously don't care what the lyrics say if you're willing to change them for money.
no there isnt, and its totally subjective.
I completely agree.
I agree with that. I was once set off by seeing a person using a craft knife in a framing shop, it's so hard to gauge something like that.
But I do agree that it would be appropriate to post a warning.
The people who seem to think that video is unacceptable because they have a shot of someone who has self harmed, are also all posting in that long thread with really potentially triggering stuff, probably making themselves all feel worse in the process.
You need to just learn to deal with seeing stuff thats not nice sometimes, and while certain things maybe upsetting, it isnt pinks video thats going to make someone go and self harm if they werent already gonna do it.
Its like putting the blame on someone else for what you do.
The trigger is always your own head. Nothing else
That's a fair point. The conversation was being had so I thought it was worth moving over.
What really intrigues me is whether it's considered any more or less offensive or damaging than the culture of using women as attractive props in other types of music - the American rap culture of displaying dancers in next-to-nothing, for example.
Offensive language and nudity are warned against, I don't think it's inappropriate to post a warning when there is violence in a video irrespective of whether the violence is self-inflicted.