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Abortion pill to become widely available
BillieTheBot
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The government is to make the abortion pill available to family planning centres for faster distribution. Good or bad news?
I, for one, welcome the move, as this procedure will make the process less distressing for women, both psychologically and physically. Just wondered whether anyone here thinks this might be encouraging more women to abort or be careless when having sex, knowing that it'll be easier now to terminate the pregnancy.
I, for one, welcome the move, as this procedure will make the process less distressing for women, both psychologically and physically. Just wondered whether anyone here thinks this might be encouraging more women to abort or be careless when having sex, knowing that it'll be easier now to terminate the pregnancy.
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Bollocks! I think if the person is irresponsible enough to get herself pregnant in the first place she should go through a little psychological damage, It'll teach her to be more careful in the future. This is just another easy way out and now women all over the country will just pop into the clinic to get rid of the 'after effects' of a one night stand.
This is what it's come down to; to be able to destroy a possible genius or leader's future life with some simple pills before it has the chance to fight for itself. If however the person has been raped, then they should be offered this pill, it wasn't their fault and have already been through enough psychological damage to last a lifetime but they should get it through hospitals, where it can be highly restricted and given out only in extreme circumstances.
Women often have to wait weeks and weeks for a surgical abortion thereby increasing the physical risks, psychological trauma and means the foetus is more developed. Even with the abortion pill, the woman will still have to see 2 doctors first, so its not going to be a case of popping down the local FPC and getting the pill every time someone has sex.
Accidents do happen. My girlfriend and I have had problems with condoms splitting for no apparent reason, only for the woman at the clinic to inform us they were a faulty batch.
If it wasn't for the morning after pill then we would have both been up shit creek. There is no way we could have been more careful, so why don't you think through all the possible scenarios before you make sweeping statements like that one.
God knows what we would have done if it wasn't available over the counter, being a sunday and all the doctors and clinics being shut.
So you think these women should be forced to have babies to `teach them a lesson` as a punishment for having sex?
Whereas the bloke will continue to get off "scot free"...
Only a man would have said something quite so ludicrous.
... homicidal maniac
That really isn't an anti-abortion argument, is it - what the person might have become...
Some women do find themselves pregnant despite taking great care with their contraception, not to mention those who are raped.
However, there will always be people out there who think it's ok to use abortion as another form of contraception.
The problem is you cannot differentiate between the two, it's very easy to lie to a doctor about how you became pregnant and how much of it was down to your own lack of care.
Women seeking abortion using the 'abortion pill' will still need to see two doctors and have some form of counselling before they get the medication so its not like they will be waltzing in and being given the pill on demand.
The main objection people have is because they disagree with the whole concept of abortion to start with, on moral or religious grounds.
We should be worried about the damage abortion can do to some women but they can also be damaged by their pregnancy.
Of course, this pill being so convenient will more than likely convince some women to abort when they may not have done so beforehand.
Surely women will have to see their doctor and have some kind of counselling before they are allowed to go ahead, otherwise that really is making it far too easy and it doesn't protect the women from possible trauma.
Agree that it may influence some women because there is no surgery involved, but a miscarriage (which is what this pill will force) certainly isn't 'convenient' and still requires medical intervention...
What this pill will do, is take away one argument from the anti-abortionists. That the manner of abortion is cruel...the use of vacuum etc..
It would be awful if young girls started thinking "well...It doesn't matter if I get pregnant - I can always get the abortion pill tomorrow"
Doctors and health care professionals should be there to help people make the decision through conselling and consultation and it shouldn't be down to chemists to prescribe instant 'solutions' to young women who may not have thought about the consequences.
I mean, if a young woman can't think about the consequences of un protected sex, how can she be expected to realise the consequences of the abortion pill.
Isn't that already covered by the Morning After Pill (MAP)?
I dont believe that having an abortion pill would convince a woman to abort a baby that she really wanted.
Thats not what I was talking about...Its the undecided or people in the middle that it will convince, not that already decided either way.
NO - I think they are different.
The morning after pill works so that an egg cannot attach itself to the lining of the womb, the abortion pill actually causes a miscarriage. i.e the woman is already pregnant.
However.. the free distribution morning after pill is no doubt seen as a step in the wrong direction toward the Abortion pill by Pro-lifers
Sorry, I meant that the "what if I have unprotected sex" argument is covered by MAP...
A mere question of definitions of "pregnancy", surely? If the egg is fertilised, then it has the capacity to grow into a human being - stopping it from implanting kills it, but at a slightly earlier stage.
Aborting the baby at 9 weeks also kills it. I fail to see the fundamental difference between it implanting and not implanting.
Surely any pure pro-lifer should feel the same? People who accept the morning after pill but have moral objections to this are hypocrites.
but then they would also be anti-contraception too...
yes, pro life is another term for anti abortion
youre right there. A lot of anti-choice people see the MAP as the same as abortion, and also disagree with the contraceptive coil on moral grounds as well, as this works by preventing the fertilised egg from implanting in the womb.
But im not pro life
Im sure its nice to be able to group all anti-abortion people as pro-life religious nuts.
Not everyone who has unprotected sex is then automatically pregnant! There is no way of knowing if you are within the 78 hours that you have to take the MAP.
The Abortion pill is absolutely different because it actually and definately terminates a pregnancy.
The MAP doesn't - infact many people are taking the morning after pill, flooding their body full of hormones and yet they are not pregnant at all.
The Abortion pill is very definately 'sorting' a 'problem' out for a woman who already knows she is pregnant.
By the way I am certainly not pro life and I'm sure you'll find that all pro lifers are against the morning after pill too.
Because its not as simple an issue as some would like to make out.
Anti-life I like that
I just find it odd that everyone on the anti-abortion side is classed as the same regardless of their views.