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To finish what they've started. They're trying to make the best of a bad job by seeing it through. It's not a random decision they've made for the sake of it.
Also, you've posted that link before. It's getting old now.
If a war is bad then the sooner it is ended the better! By your logic Milosevic should have been allowed to continue his war of terror in the former Yugoslavia because it wasn't properly finished in 1995.
By the way on the front line in the fight against the war in Afghanistan in Parliament square thousands are gathering to resist the eviction of the anti-war camp see this : http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/07/455793.html
By your logic: cats are sky and truffle-bottom and bigamous undersecretary disrupt outshout.
If they leave now, then Afghanistan will become a hiding place for terrorists looking to attack the West. By finishing it, they will likely be able to ensure a secure and stable army to support Afghanistan.
With the added bonus that it pisses Steelgate off. I'm sure that's part of US and UK Govt reckoning, not to mention the other 40 countries that are part of ISAF
It will be better that the American stay in their country instead of going to maintain order in Afganistan.
It explains that while there were a few Jihadist training camps the people at those camps were only being trained to fight in muslim countries where muslims were already at war such as Chechenya and Kashmir. They were not being trained to attack the west.
And that Al Qaeda as an organised terrorist group with an organised comand structure and a central terror base located in Afghanistan is largely an invention of American right wing politicians imagination. What there is a very loose network of Islamic extremists spread across the world who look to Bin Laden for inspiration but he is not an actual leader of anything he is just a figure head.
I said will become you fucking moron. At least read what I write before spouting irrelevant bullshit.
Islamic terrorists are spread across the whole globe, why do people think they are all planning to gather in Afghanistan to plot attacks on the west from there? That is just pro-war propaganda. You should go to this website and learn the facts:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
That is clearly a biased website.
Find me a proper one and I'll look at it.
And yet you purport to know what is going to happen in afghanistan after reading a stopwar website for 5 minutes.
Contradiction much?
America and Britain are also LOSING the war in Afghanistan! Virtually no one still support that stupid war nowadays!
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
And you're an expert how?
The Taliban are being more and more reduced to roadside bombs, they're unable to stand up to any push by the allies, the afghan army is improving, funding is short and Pakistan is nipping at their hinterland. The sooner the Taliban come to the negotiating table the better the deal they'll be able to get, but as long as we can keep our nerve (and frankly they can't defeat us outright, so us deciding to go is the only way they can win) the Taliban's defeat is only a matter of time.
It is only a matter of time before the allies fighting a war of aggression in Afghanistan are defeated! Go to this website and learn the facts: http://www.stopwar.org.uk
If you support the stupid war against the Afghan people then you are a war criminal with blood on your hands!
Yes and I've talked to many officers and soliders who've served (and have experience in solidering myself) and they tell a totally different story.
So forgive me if I don't regard an anti-war website as being strong evidence compared to my own expertise.
What is more the soldiers fighting in that war are war criminals repsonsible for the deaths and injuries of tens of thousands of innocent Afghan civilians! :mad:
The USA and Britain have opened the gates of hell with this war and are doomed to lose it!
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
So, the people who are actually serving out there and see it with their own eyes, are less of an expert on the reality of what is happening in Afghanistan than some wanker reading a website and attending marches thousands of miles away?
I know it's a lot to ask, but please stop the spamming.
Under what law?
Dont call me stupid, and dont accuse me of lying.
Can you honestly provide me with any evidence other than that stopwar website, which contradicts all the first hand information I have gained from my own personal experiences. No you cant, because it would just be mistruth.
Certainly an interesting viewpoint that they know less about it than you. I mean it's not like they have any experience or expertise. Oh wait... they do.
Welcome back G - that didn't take long
Steelgate has the effect on people. Especially when he says that G is a war criminal who doesn't know what's happening in Afghanistan.
I stand by what I said before the war in Afghanistan is totally and utterly wrong and America and its allies are doomed to fail! :mad:
Here is a good anti-war song by the way dedicated to all the stupid brainwashed troops out in Afghanistan, its called Wasted Life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3mqtXQAunw
1. Funny you say that, I was talking to an Afghan national just the other day who says he prays to allah every day because he is thankful for what some British troops have done for him.
2. Are you being serious, now you are using anti war songs as evidence the war is bad?
Are you going to keep on spewing the same old stuff without any evidence, or at least evidence not from the stopwar website.
Im definately going now, the only reason I popped back is because someone let me know what was going on in here. I know my opinion is probly as biased as Goldsworth's, however I have some serious issues with what is being suggested about me and some work colleagues.
Oh and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfECxO1fkxc is a video too, amusing in an ironic way, lots of cool stuff getting blown up, and to a cool song. Just shows how videos on youtube and the music accompanying them can sometimes be neither morally right, or even factually helpful when describing what is going on in a conflict zone.
In what way is it a war crime and where is your evidence that the ISAF troops are hated?
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Those troops, the ones you happily deride as "war criminals" would fight and die for you to maintain that right. Something you should reflect on.
Here a good song which refutes that
You really should have a good long look at this anti-war website: http://www.stopwar.org.uk I think you and others in the pro-war brigade could learn a hell of a lot from it.
The only troops who are right are the ones who are daring to speak out against this evil war! Thankfully some of them are speaking out against it. Like Joe GLenton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1X9HsotKag