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Have a go at the guys in the armed forces who haven't got the guts to speak out against the war!
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
Pretty judgemental there
Maybe the rest of them just get on with the job they signed up to do.
You're wasting your time trying to debate with him. Search for threads where the Username "Steelgate" is involved and you'll see why. He rarely engages in debate, just posts links to other sites which he thinks back up his argument.
Failing that you could search for the names Stealgate, Stea1gate, Harlequin or Rockwell. It's all the same person.
He'll get banned again soon.
Possibly I am judgemental. however, after dealing with a number of real cases of PTSD I'm unconvinced that going off to Australia and SE Asia backpacking, joining the anti-war protests and when charged deciding to claim you had PTSD fits the pattern. The court martial agreed...
And I'm judgemental because I've dealt with PTSD and it belittles the real suffering it causes brave men for him to use it to try and justify his behaviour. I and hundreds of thousands like me have gone to nasty, shitty places and not all have returned, we didn't break our oaths or let down our colleagues.
Watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oabqz05inE
Interesting article from an ex-SAS soldier and trainer of the Afghan army.
No amount of 'surges' are going to stop this - you can't bomb culture out of people.
How far it its generalisible is anyone's guess, but the indication that the some saw the Russians as preferable to the Americans is alarming.
On what basis is the Afghan conflict "illegal"?
This might be a good counter argument
Not one 9/11 hijacker was from Afghanistan! The Tablian offered to hand over Osama Bin Laden the claimed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks if they were given evidence of his planning the attacks by America. America refused to show any evidence to the Afghan government so they refused their request to hand him over.
Therefore was no excuse for war against Afghanistan at all as the Afghan government was not being unreasonable. Further more under international law what to do in the wake of the 9/11 attacks was up to the United Nations not the USA.
Also in any war adequate precautions have to be taken to avoid civlian casualties but America used cluster bombs and depleted uranium shells which caused thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and injuries.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
1. Which international law?
2. ISAF
www.thruthaboutstopthewar.org
We are there at the invitation of the government, so cant really be a war can it.
Also not that many countries recognised the legitimacy of the taliban rule.
The Afghan war was totally illegal because Afghanistan did not attack America on 9/11! It is illegal to wage a war against a country which has not attacked your country first.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
www.stopstopwar.org
http://www.manchesterstopwar.org/war-law/747-false-claims-that-the-war-with-afghanistan-is-legal-exposed-.html
What law and what court of law though?
Steelgate ?
Are you sure it is not Attorney General Lord Goldsmith (circa July 2002), and you are really Tony Blair ?
Afghanistan has never attacked America therefore America was wrong to declare war on Afghanistan in 2001.
The group that attacked America in 9/11 Al Qaeda is a loose network of muslim terrorist spread across the world not a country. You cannot fight a terrorist network by singling out one country like Afghanistan and attacking it.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
So, under which court and which law.
It alright trotting out the same accusation each time I mention this, Stealgate, but you haven't actually answered. I know what the UN Charter says but you haven't answered the question.
The politicians who are responsible for starting the Afghan war are war criminals! :mad:
When did the war in Afghanistan begin? October 2001
By the war remember all you people who support the war in Afghanistan have blood on your hands! Tens of thousands of innocent Afghan civilians are being killed and horrifically maimed because of you people! :mad:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
From the link which you provided:
Milosevic was not tried in that court. His case came under the juristriction of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.
Most sensible people now recognise that the war in Afghanistan is total disaster which never should have been started! :mad:
My war?
Does that mean I will be up on war crime charges too?
Unless Call Of Duty is actually real :chin:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk