If you need urgent support, call 999 or go to your nearest A&E. To contact our Crisis Messenger (open 24/7) text THEMIX to 85258.
Read the community guidelines before posting ✨
Options
Police Punch Man
Former Member
Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
The guy doing the Punching seems well out of order... the man's already being held down by two others .. hope the one doing the punching loses his job plus gets done for assault.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7757229.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7757229.stm
0
Comments
But saying that I can partly understand, i mean it must be very frustrating, target driven law enforcement, dealing with the darker side of people most of the time and having a shed load of paper work to do! I mean, that is no excuse to abuse your power, but I can imagine it doesnt help when it comes down to doing your job effectively!
no offence but that's ridiculous...the guy "fell" from the balcony at "roughly" the same time. so what it's saying is that it may have been either before or after the police were there...and he may have jumped...if he did it before or after, how is that the fault of the police? if it happened at the same time, then the article would've said so, surely.
and what difference does it make that two of them were former paratroopers? its very easy to take things out of context. the article claims he was "resisting arrest" without providing any details whatsoever of what he did during this apparently-peaceful process, while the police are passed off as being some kind of assault unit acting against an innocent man (the article also fails to mention why he was arrested...)
i'm not saying the courts don't favour the police, because of course it's all covered up and biased towards them. they lie and cover eachothers backs and there's nothing anyone can do, but some of the examples people pull out are ludicrous.
If he's punching his neck, or punching someone who is cuffed then he needs to be sacked. If he's punching his arms, then no number of times is excessive according to the rules, you keep punching until their arm is sufficiently deadend that you can get the cuffs on.
This guy is a soldier, and I'd wager quite well built, which would require more than a tickle to the bicep.
Now, I'm not blindly defending these guys just because they're in the police. If they've hit someone who was defenceless then they should be punished. If they've done a legitimate home office approved technique on someone in order to apply handcuffs or to subdue someone who is kicking off/resisting arrest then they should be exonerated.
However, there is always the other side of the coin, and the CCTV isn't 100% clear. Having read the above story though I do feel sorry for the guy and think there were other ways of dealing with it.
It's quite clear from the Video that the other two officers have the man pinned down already .. and what was the man's crime in the first place? He fell over all by himself and the police rush at him for what reason?
You make it sound like it was one on one - not three on one. The man is already face down and has he weight of two grown men on him, there's no need for the third policeman to punch him 7 times.
If the idea is to get his arm down into handcuffs then punching him is not the way to do it - the 3rd policeman only needs to push his arms down with his own body weight, but I doubt that was the reason for punching him.
Looks like the policeman wanted to give someone a good kicking that night and got caught on camera doing it.
They have more of a video there, it's pretty obvious it's a police assault. Including grabbing his head and bashing it against the ground, swinging a fist into his face, grinding his face deliberately on the road...
On a side note, the Daily Mash suspects that all is not as it seems with this story...
That video is horrifying, the full video shows the policeman banging the man's head into the concrete and scrapping his head back and forth against the hard ground.
If they keep men like him on the force then no wonder people lose respect for the police, from the previous video I'd have said he should be serious demoted or even lose his job, but from that particular video I think the police man should be the one facing ABH / GBH charges.
The man was no where near the policemen in the very first place and they charged him. The whole incident was badly handled by all three officer and the third officer just pounded the guy for no reason.
From what's emerged it does seem now that the cops were in the wrong, and if that's the case then I hope they're swiftly sacked.
But, the above is, the opinion of someone who is ill-informed. It often takes more than one police officer to arrest someone, and pushing their arm down isn't as easy as it sounds if that person is resisting arrest. Like I said before, punching someone in the arm is a home-office approved technique for gaining compliance.
In this case they've gone well beyond that and it is disgusting. But we're taught techniques like that for a reason, and just because a bunch of people don't like the look of it, doesn't mean it'll stop.
The alternative is that we start gassing, tasering and shooting people who resist arrest like they do in the USA and other countries.
Not only was the man beaten, punched, had his head banged into the ground and scraped and had to do community service but he had to pay the guy that punched him £100 in compensation, which he's since gotten back.
http://itn.co.uk/news/65b0a31b588d1e992836bd62b3eab03a.html
If the judge that sentenced him in the first instance saw this tape and still sentenced him like that then he also needs to be retired.
The guy that was attacked by the police also lost out on the chance to apply for the Fire service because of his conviction
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1082940_punch_cop_investigated_before
I'm about 4 stone heavier than last time they beat me up so I reckon I'll give as good as I get lol
It wasn't a bar fight though was it ?
The video doesn't surprise me at all. There are a lot of people in the police who are aggressive and who cannot be trusted, hence we have appropriate adults for interviews... So they don't hurt or take advantage of young people or vulnerable individuals.
I often feel CCTV is snooping... However, as somebody who goes to a fair few demonstrations I am glad that we have it, as well as handheld cameras and camera phones because it makes the police less likely to beat you up.
nope, just saying it could have been worse.
er no. All it's proof of is that these THREE officers are arseholes.
Any long term action been taken against the officers?