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Ok, that's another ad hominem, and has been used because you cannot answer the actual point.
How does paying one man to murder another help me or anyone else to be free?
Seriously kid, I'm not part of your fucking a-level research. If you cannot answer that question yourself then clearly you are nowhere near as intelligent as you think you are.
Ok.
Still no answer. I'll assume you are doing some elaborate bluff or something and don't really know, then.
Answer me this, do you consider yourself free? Do you live your life in fear of your Govt, or anyone elses, do you fear the knock on the door in the middle of the night because of something which you may have said outloud? Do you worry that your mother/sister is going to be raped in front of you before some low life scumbag slits your throat for shits and giggles? Do you worry that yuo will be tortured just because you look at someone the wrong way, wear the wrong clothes or were born into the wrong ethnic grouping...?
I wasn't aware that how I look had any bearing on the problem at hand, to be quite honest. In fact, I am sure it doesn't.
I consider myself fairly free, yes.
I'm not sure what your list has to do with paying a man to kill another man making me more free. Can you explain it a little more please?
No, but it will do you good to learn some humility. To realise that you aren;t impressing anyone here with your efforts to come across as educated. You don't.
You come across as someone who learned about life from a sociology course. We get people like that around here a lot. Eventually they realise that, actually, they don't know half as much as they think that they do.
Do you think that your sense of well being happens by accident? Do you think that what has come before you even existed might have some bearing on that?
Heaven forbid, do you think that the fact that people are willing to fight and die to prevent someone else taking that freedom away from you might have something to do with it?
Is that simplistic enough for you?
Bald, factual statements coming accross as tactless?
This I don't care about. (Joking, joking!)
No.
No. Can you show me the steps please, I do not see them. Who wants to hurt me and how does paying someone to murder them help me?
No.
Do they - murder after all is illegal killing. Killing in war is state sanctioned - ergo it cannot be murder.
And as I said I've never killed anyone -for pay or otherwise (and frankly there's lot's of better paid jobs I could have joined which didn't involve me having to shiver in the cold of the night)
That's what I was thinking - though they were a bit brighter...
You know, I'm not going to bother. You aren't worth my time or bandwidth.
Open Google and have a look at what is happening in Burma, or look af Spain in the 30s - most notably on the outcome of the civil war there.
Alternatively, now here's a little thought, look at what happened in Europe in the early 40s.
If those don't give you a hint, then I'd suggest that you return to Primary School and start all over again because our education system will clearly have failed.
Depends who you ask. You ask a german, britsher is a murderer, ask an eglishman, fritz is the murderer.
However, one man pays another man to kill someone else. Facts don't change in any case.
Ok, so you were bluffing.
Fair enough.
Well of course, but then the crusades from which we get our St. George's Cross were hardly an international peace-keeping mission either, and yet we still use it.
You're asking entirely the wrong question. It should be "How can one man killing another man prevent someone from taking my freedom." Freedom cannot be given by a gun, but it can be taken by a gun. And in that situation, the only thing preventing it is you having a gun yourself (or paying someone to have one on your behalf).
Ok, and if that man has a gun and I do not, how do I prevent him from taking my freedom?
You don't.
Right, so how does paying a man to shoot another man make me free?
You pay someone else to put their life on the line and hope the chap you pay is better than the other guy...
If better guys do not exist, I need my own gun.
Either way, paying someone else to have more force than I do is completely illogical.
Fair enough.
You're failing to realise that it's your money that gives them the extra force. I'd love to see the RAF attempt an air raid of Afghanistan with just the men.
Better in this sense would be better morally. i,e, they don't use the superior force to hurt me once they have it. That's got nothing to do with being a more efficient killer.
But how does me giving them money to be better killers make me free?
Surely I am always everafter at their whim?
We've already mentioned this. It doesn't make you free, it means that if such a situation occurs that someone wants to take away your freedom, they will prevent it.
Not as long as you hold the purse strings.
You are free because pretty much all the time, big blokes in uniform, with guns or without are preventing the people who want to take your freedom from doing so.
Where that be freedom from having your uni room broken into, or freedom from being blown up on a bus, or freedom from having to salute the swastika every morning and say Heil Hitler before lessons is irrelevant.
You are free because people with a lot more guts than you protect you.
We didn't get our St. George's Cross from the crusades, we got it from the martyrdom of St. George.
It's a millitary medal that has been awarded to soldiers of the German and Prussian armies for years before the second world war. Even during the second world war, it wasn't a Nazi medal as such. It was still a medal awarded to the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, Waffen SS or any of the German fighting forces as a medal of bravery, and they were just the armed forces of a Nazi occupied nation. Not quite the same as wearing an Allgemeine SS Death's Head badge.
The Iron Cross is no different from our Victoria Cross. Both Britain and Germany have been through periods of times when we've done horrific things.
We never did anything as horrific as giving the world the goose-step.
No, I am free by default, it can only be taken away, not granted.
How does the existence of "big men in uniform" free me?
I have to do what they say, surely. They are what you claim they protect me from. The proposition is laughable.
Do you feel you are at the whim of the army currently? Do they often wander into your house and steal your money? When Parliament cuts defence spending do you worry about a coup? When there were the recent regimental cuts was Blair wandering around in fear of the army coming after him?
If their whim is to leave me alone, how does that prevent me from being at the mercy of their whim?