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Any evidence for their existence?
no lol but i would like to belive they are, what do you think happens to your soul after you die then??
There's no evidence that souls exist either.
If you ask me, saying "There's no scientific evidence of it, so it can't be true" is like saying "Everything that could be invented, has been invented already" (someone did say that!).
It's a different thing if you prove something couldn't exist, but as long as there's no proof either way it's all a matter of what each individual believes.
Whilst I'm a complete sceptic and don't believe in ghosts.
When you mentioned everything going light and tingly and such, well that's kind of happened in a weird way to me before.
Still, I don't believe any of it. I always tell my mum when I have dreams about my dad because she believes it religiously, and always tell her he's having a great time, drinking a beer or whatever...
Exactly. There's no proof that ghosts don't exist either. Personally I don't believe in ghosts but think the faith that people have in the afterlife is comforting. My problem with it is when mediums and other idiots take advantage and proclaim to speak to your deceased loved one. It's messed up.
Surly it is up to the person making the claim to provide the proof. This argument is used for many supernatural claims...
..For example there would be many ways of proving the existence of ghosts, ie:
*Some way of 'seeing' them.
*Some method of communicating and getting information which would otherwise be impossible.
*Verifiable video evidence.
*Detecting them interact with our world
...im sure many more
Now, can you suggest some 'proof' that would 'prove ghosts don't exist'?
..the only one I can think of is the total absence of positive proof.
feww, I typed proof alot of times!
To be fair, whilst there was no evidence that machines could fly - there was plenty of evidence that some things could fly. There was plenty of evidence that within nature or physics that some creatures were able to fly.
There was no proof we could drive machines underwater until working submarines were built but again we could see the evidence of creatures that could survive underwater, and by the same token could survive without air in space.
However I'm unaware of any evidence of anything in nature that suggests that death isn't an absolute rule of exsistence.
I think it's a fairly good way of thinking, of course I wouldn't stop anyone from having their own beliefs
William of Ockham was a 14th century logician and Franciscan friar. The principal was -
"entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem", or
"entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity".
Simply put - 'All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best'
Of course you'd still have to decide whether that means ghosts existing or not existing is actually the simpliest thing to believe in
There will never be anything to suggest that ghosts absolutely exist as they only seem to appear to people privately but at the same time there will never be anything to absolutely 100% to suggest that ghosts don't exist. If it were that why now than why would lots of people still claim to have seen them when it had been proved that they don't exist?
It's your brain playing tricks on you. And I know this can be proven scientifically, optical illusions are known fact. Fear can be a big contribution in this, hence why people always see ghosts in "haunted" houses or dark countryside lanes and not sitting beside you playing a game of chess while you surf the net.
"When one admits that nothing is certain one must, I think, also admit that some things are much more nearly certain than others." I think that pretty much covers my opinion on that. Aliens are more likely than ghosts, for example, because we know that the universe can support life, or we wouldn't be here. We have no proof for either, but one is certainly more likely than the other.
Similarly, if you were to ask a person several hundred years ago what was the most probable: human flight, or human time travel, then the correct answer would be human flight, because they have the evidence that flight is possible within our currently understood system of physics, even if the technology wasn't advanced enough yet.
It's all a load of superstitious bullshit. Read this article to show how it's all in the mind:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00086A66-F080-1C63-B882809EC588ED9F
I get sleep paralysis from time to time, and I just wake up in the middle of the night and can't move. I'm fully awake and sometimes I have mild hallucinations of someone being in the room, or I can see a dark figure in the corner of my eyes, but I can't turn my head to look at them. When I first had them it was pretty traumatic, but I've learnt to deal with them now and reading up about it, it seems quite common. Some people have much more severe and vivid hallucinations.
I think this is a very logical reasoning as to why people (who are completely normal and sane) are convinced they've been abducted by aliens as well. Most alien abductees report not being able to move and seeing dark figures moving around beside them. Classic symptoms of sleep paralysis if you ask me.
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I get it all the time myself.
But if you'd asked them about a box which sits in the corner with moving pictures and sounds what would they have thought?
Yeah I agree. I don't believe in ghosts personally
Yea, as I said in my other thread I had some weird experience the other night normally classed as an out of body experience, which people sometimes believe is your soul leaving your body to go on a trip. In reality, it's when your conciousness wakes up, but your senses dont. So you feel perfectly awake except without sensation. And minus the sensation of gravity, you feel like you're floating up (try standing against a wall and push your arm against it for a minute, if you stop, your arm floats naturally). Your mind fills in the rest of the blanks... especially if you were having a dream before you could have some pretty f*cked up 'adventures'
Well you're asking a very specific question about the workings of a very specific invention there. So no, they wouldn't know the exact form of such a device, but if you were to ask them whether it would be possible to record and play back certain things, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility no. The first type of camera was invented in 470BC, for example. It's not much of a stetch to go from that to finding a substance on which the image can be automatically projected and stored (film, then digital). And then from there, it's just a case of putting lots of images together. And if you can do that with light waves, then you can do it with sound waves. Okay, the average person on the street might not know this, but to anyone with a knowledge of physics at the time, why not? Plenty of things are mathematically proven as possible, long before they're invented.
I heard about this bloke who injected his eye muscles with anesthetic, so they couldn't move. But when his brain tells them to move, it reacts as if they really have moved, and so assumes that because the eyes have moved, but the image has stayed the same, the room must be the thing that's moving round, and you end up with an earthquake effect. I'd love a go of it.
On the latter, they mean that perhaps it's not the ghost of a Victorian-age woman you're seeing, but the imprint of her thoughts when she was living there. And I read about a "haunted" house somewhere, where people regularly see a "ghost" that looks like the fictional character from some novels that a writer who lived there wrote.