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Nurses Told To Turn Beds To Mecca
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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/27213/Nurses-told-to-turn-Muslims-beds-to-Mecca
I really don't agree with this. How would a nurse tell someone's family: 'sorry that we couldn't save him/her. We were moving beds instead'?:rolleyes:
Fair enough, provide Halal food, but isn't this going a bit OTT?
Nice to see our money is being spent on stuff like this instead of preventing infections and making sure hospitals are clean.:rolleyes:
I really don't agree with this. How would a nurse tell someone's family: 'sorry that we couldn't save him/her. We were moving beds instead'?:rolleyes:
Fair enough, provide Halal food, but isn't this going a bit OTT?
And a taxpayer-funded training programme for several hundred hospital staff has begun to ensure that all are familiar with the workings of the Muslim faith.
Nice to see our money is being spent on stuff like this instead of preventing infections and making sure hospitals are clean.:rolleyes:
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I wonder whether all the hospital beds face Mecca in more predominantly muslim countries or whether they turn them 5 times a day
"OMG LARGELY MUSLIM AREA TRIES TO ACCOMODATE MUSLIM BELIEFS"
As long as it stays "where possible" and isnt at the expense of other more important duties
I hope someone sets them right.
:yes: seems like common sense to me. If they were trying to resucitate someone and had to stop to move some beds there may be a problem, but I can't see the issue of trying to accommodate patients beleifs if it doesn't knock on else where (and happy patients are more likely to recover quickly than those who are unhappy because they can't pray properly)
Either way, nurses have got far better things to do with their days than doing their backs in rotating bloody beds.
Hospital beds are designed to be easy to move. But I'm glad to see your support for the health and safety facists.... In fact nurses shouldn't be in the same room as sick people - they might catch a bug...
Obviously theyd need to take into account proper moving and handling techniques.
But you're the one saying they might hurt themselves not lawyers and not H&S officers...
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/index.htm
I'm certainly not accusing you of being a mouthpiece of the HSE... The HSE would be disgusted with your view of H&S and you are one of the problems they're fighting against.
You don't really understand the concept of H&S or the law do you?
H&S is about reducing risk, not getting rid of it. The nurses would only have a case if the trust hadn't tried to manage risk of back injuries
But in reality
a) hopsital beds are designed to be easy to move
b) the staff moving them will have had training
c) There are enough staff moving the bed that they can do so without undue strain
If a nurse injures herself because of the lack of one of the three - she has a case, lawyers or not.
However, the H&S laws don't stop you doing things, they don't even stop you doing things with a risk. They just say you have to take realistic steps to manage that risk
The best story I ever heard though (true AFAIK) was of a muslim astronaut trying to work out which way to face when praying from orbit.
Nursing care isn't just about providing treatment, the clue is in the word "care". It means that you do whatever you can to make patients comfortable. If that means turning their bed, where possible, when why the hell shouldn't they?
Next the less tolerant people on these boards will complain that the NHS takes peoples relgion into account when we handle their bodies after death.
What is so wrong about trying to recognise that not all people are the same and that it's a good idea to try and recognise their individuality?
We have protocols for dealing with as many of the difference within religions as possible.
Before typing something like this, it's always worth checking your facts first.
Do you think that nurses don't move beds every single day?
So what's more important then, someone having their bed moved to face 'Mecca' or someone's life being saved?
But aren't the reasons generally something like having to move wards or go down to have surgery/other procedures?
I'd expect that there's more than one nurse per hospital, and that the ones doing day care for patients will probably be a different set to the ones doing emergency ward care.
Even if not, I doubt a nurse who was turning a bed would ignore someone crashing next door whilst they just finish off.
Yeah because all nurses ever do is "save lives". :rolleyes:
FFS The first time a nurse ever put saving a life second to moving a bed they would rightly be struck off.
It's never an either/or issue and you damned well know that.
Many reasons, but the point I was making is that moving beds is hardly new to nurses and, surprising though it may seem, they are quite capable of doing it without knackering their backs everytime.
You know, if this was about anything else but trying to meet the religious beliefs of Muslims there wouldn't be half this throthing-mouthed-bullshit-kneejerk responses.
Do they pray while they're lying in the bed? How does that work? How do they position their bed?
As far as I know, lying down with your feet pointing towards Mecca is actually discouraged/forbidden. That's why you won't get any beds pointing towards Mecca in Muslim households.