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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/manchester/7112941.stm
You can watch an advert from the male and female perspective from a link at the bottom.
What do you think? On first impression, I think it's a good idea to raise awareness, especially coming up to Christmas when a lot of people will be out drinking more than usual.
You can watch an advert from the male and female perspective from a link at the bottom.
What do you think? On first impression, I think it's a good idea to raise awareness, especially coming up to Christmas when a lot of people will be out drinking more than usual.
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Seems a good idea to me...
Definately a good thing to have more awareness of it though. If people see this then it's making them think, and if they stop and think before it happens then it might not happen. Although I hate the saying, if it stops just one rape occuring then it was worth it.
I doubt very much that there's anything short term anyone can do about stranger rapes.
Are you saying that it's easier to rape someone when they are drunk, or that when people are drunk they are more likely to rape?
Personally I don't think alcohol is the problem. Being a rapist, not having any idea about boundaries etc is mostly responsible for rape if you ask me.
weak enough to rape someone
Dude, give just a couple of seconds thought about what's appeared in your head before committing it to the internet.
I think it's a big factor. Alcohol is involved in large proportion of violent crime and when it comes to murders and rapes that proportion is even bigger.
A woman who's drunk alcohol is easier to take advantage of and alcohol can bring out violence in men - a recipe for rape.
Though I don't agree with J's view that it should be banned.
I think somebody who's got the ability to rape somebody is more likely to go through with it when they're drunk. Alcohol lowers inhibitions.
Changing attitudes towards drink driving had a similar effect, so it could work.
How about those recent cases with a taxi driver and security guard?
Obviously. But alcohol lowers inhintions allowing people to listen to the little red devil on their left shoulder rather than the little white angle on their right. It allows people to do things that they'd not normally do.
I'm not saying that drunk people shouldn't have to take repsonsibility for their actions, of course they do, but you'd be a fool not to realise that alcohol plays a very big part in violent crimes such as rape.
Were they convicted of rape?
Anyway, you don't think that alcohol is big factor in violent crime? Have you been out in the town recently on a friday night at kicking out time?
I'm certain it does but the person chose to drink the/that amount of alcohol themselves, it's not actually the fault of the alcohol.
Unfortunately not, no. God knows why though.
Obviously. But alcohol is factor in a lot of violent crime, so to suggest that banning alcohol would produce a drop in violent crime including rapes isn't such an absurd idea. Infact I'm sure it would, but an alcohol band is not something I'd like to see
Addictions a very complicated matter. I don't think you can so boradly suggest that all addicts have a strong WILL to be addiced to anything.
Na, I think they're opposite tbh.
but that's not the same as saying less alcohol would reduce rape - or is it?
Rape also incresaes during war time. If there was anarchy or war in this country, as a woman, that would probably be my main fear.
Many many peop;e get completely bladdered and don't do anything illegal or dangerous. IMO people who act like wankers when drunk are usually likely to act like wankers sober.
Skive is talking about alcohol playing a part in affecting someone's behaviour - you're starting to justify rape as just a natural thing to do again. Please don't.
Not that it's not his responsibility, but if we are considering that people's judgement is impaired when they're drinking, how much of an effect will telling people 'just don't do it' have? I doubt the jail sentence will be a deterrant either. Nor even if we had a higher conviction rate. To me I can only imagine it's not premeditated - the guy may be infatuated or attracted to the girl for some time - but the idea of rape I doubt would enter a reasonable person's mind.
But reasonable men can and do rape, which is wholly unacceptable, and I think whilst not the only reason the 'drink' culture does not help matters at all.
Having said that, it needs to be a multi-tiered strategy. Making women safer - drink bottle stoppers, rape alarms, awareness of not walking home alone, staying in a group etc - and making men have more respect for women. The worrying thing is when people say 'men need to respect women more', there seems the assumption that most men don't. Whereas I think everyone in this thread, on this site, do respect a girl when she says no and say 'ok'. Are we targeting the wrong group of people? Preaching to the choir, etc.
I have done so many things when really really pissed up that I would never even DREAM of doing sober.. so god knows what it does to other people.
I think it is. Acohol is a factor in a serious amount of violent crime, that's more than just a coinicidence. It affects people beahviour and in some cases people do things they wouldn't do sober. It think drink may be drink may be reponsible for many rapists going ahead with their crime.
Obviously there's a great deal of truth in that, but I've seen alcohol turn people into very different characters hundreds of times.
I get angry sometimes but when sober I can easilly control that. Out of the town though after a few drinks if somebody pisses me off I find it incredibly difficult to refrain from getting invloved in a fight. I've got a criminal record though doing some thing violent and incredibly stupid when drunk - somethign I woudl never have normallly done. Of course it's my fault, being drunk is never an excuse and I take full responsibilty for my actions but you can't get away from the fact that I woudl have never have done it if I hadn't been drunk.