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Im back at home now .. dads being normal havent seen mum yet. Apparently he went around town driving trying to find me last night but I did text him to let him know I was safe.
I will have to wait to see Mum later and just say sorry I guess
I guess so but I dont think what mum did was very nice she could have stuck up for me ! I think thats what upset me
i agree with this..pinning you up against the wall by your neck? if he was a relation of mine then he'd better fucking apoligise.
You have absolutely no idea the panic that they would have been in and so I can understand their reaction - wrong though it was.
It's easy, when you don't have children, to see their actions in a "black/white" perspective.
I dont think it's black or white. There's no excuse to be pinned up against the wall and slapped around by your own parents. I understand they must have been worried/ angry but that just isn't right however you look at it.
You see it purely as violent attack. I see it as two people worried shitless for hours, only to have their child brought home by the police and then to be told - in a cocky "fuck you" kind of way - that they hang around with drug dealers...
You cannot expect normal reasoned responses in such circumstances.
I don't think it was a "I want to hurt" you reaction, I think it was a "do you realise what you are putting us through, you've scared the shit out of us" reaction. Different motive, different levels. It's more akin to the parent who slap a child that's just run into the road. It's insn't so much as punishment in the way that some might think.
That said, I still don't think that it was right and I still think that they should apologise. The only other piece of advice I would give is that the OP should have a damned hard look at how they live their life...
I think that's his point though, that unless you're an actual parent and go through these things then you can only talk from it in a hypothetical "what should happen" viewpoint.
Yerascrote I hate the 'until you are a parent' line. My opinion is just as valid even if I haven't squeezed one out.
It taught me a lesson. I guess you're a bit older than that though and it wasn't really necessary.
But you can emphasis with a parent reacting in such a manner? Sometimes the love for a child is so strong that it manifests itself physically. I think that's the case here, if he held her up against the wall for not cleaning her dishes then it's a different story.
Yeah that's what I wanted to say..
Never in question.
It's valid, true, but being a parent changes you emotionally. Certainly that's the experience I have had.
Without question I would die for my children, I love them unconditionally and I - subconsciously - worry about them every single minute of the day. There is no-one else in my life that I have such feelings for. Never have and I cannot imagain that I ever will.
I hate it when they are sick, I hate it when I can see that they are worrying about something. It breaks my heart to see them cry - about anything.
My top two fears in life are that one of them goes before I do, or that I go before they have grown up and able to manage in the big wide world.
Personally, I don't believe that there is another relatiohsip, between two people, which comes close to that between parent and child. Even if it's only one way.
I think that I have the ability to empathise without having been through it myself. I've loved/cared/been angry. True it doesn't involve a child but all of these emotions are human and not restricted to parents. Just dislike the write off of non-parents because 'they haven't been there'. It seems like such an easy rebuction reply.
I'm not condoning what her parents did, but at the same time I am not surprised at their reactions either. It couldn't have been a very nice thing to see their daughter coming home in a police car, drunk out of her mind and swearing and telling her parents that she is involved with coke dealers and then goes off to stay with a friend. Yes, a double apology is needed, but it all needs to start with the OP.
I'm not trying to belittle or patronise you or make you feel that your opinions are any less valid than the next dudes, but I don't think you can fully compare feelings (whether it be anger or love or whatever) you have had with a friend / partner / whoever as feelings you would have with your own child.
Maybe I'm wrong as i've not 'squeezed one out yet' but I think there is a bond there that is very different to what you would experience with anyone else.
I'm the guy who has had, at most, two of three punch-ups in my life. I don't believe in violence.
That said, I nearly laid out my father and brother-in-law when they scared my eldest by having a shoving fight infront of him (he was three). And again when some kids nicked his bike - I actually had one up against a wall.
The protection instict is so very, very, primeval.
Damn you stop making me think!
I can consider in certain situations but I can say honestly that I wouldnt use violence as a form as punishment. I feel really strongly about that.
But the OPs parents weren't using it as a form of punishment. Of that I am sure.